News Article: Shane Pinto suspended 41 games for violating gambling rules

[bert]

He’s the likely one to go but 4goals with his deployment, 21 goal pace, is pretty good for a guy who makes 2.5M and plays responsibly.

Yeah which means they should be getting something back for him. He clears more cap than Brannstrom and is easier to replace than a D man.

Pinto for Kubalik is an upgrade for the sens.

 

[GCK]

Yeah which means they should be getting something back for him. He clears more cap than Brannstrom and is easier to replace than a D man.

Pinto for Kubalik is an upgrade for the sens.

Absolutely, Centre or D over winger all day. I just hate the narrative that Kubalik is terrible, I mean he makes less than the league average, what were people expecting.

 

[SanderSen]

I agree that our media does dick all for putting pressure on the league.

If one of Toronto's top 3 centers were suspended for half the year without much of a story, best believe they would be bombarding the league demanding answers and ridiculing the league until the NHL softens their stance. They would literally harass the NHL for an explanation.

In Ottawa we just get "that's the punishment and there's nothing we can do about it. Let's move on."

Yup, and it would be unrelenting. The "negotiated" suspension is a spin to make it go down better for us. Negotiating outcomes depends on the position and strength of the parties, and in this one the NHL had all the clout and no outside pressure - not much of a negotiation.

 

[boxbox]

This could really work out well for the sens if it tanks his value and he signs cheap.

Imagine getting Pinto, Bath and Formenton all severely underpaid due to their (alleged) off ice behaviour.

I feel bad for them, but they'll all be millionaires so not really that bad.

its a sure BET this will bring his value down

 

[bert]

Absolutely, Centre or D over winger all day. I just hate the narrative that Kubalik is terrible, I mean he makes less than the league average, what were people expecting.

He isnt terrible, I dont like the idea of trading him but unless its a deal around Chabot for a RD and cap space its the only other play they have unfortunately.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Ouroboros]

That seems illegal; Pinto isn't supposed to be around the team or using the facilities yet.

I'm going to e-mail Bettman to make sure he's aware of this.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Hopefully Alfie can help him stop being such a jabroni, amirite??

Seriously though it's good to see him working with the younger guys so regularly.

 

[BondraTime]

That seems illegal; Pinto isn't supposed to be around the team or using the facilities yet.

I'm going to e-mail Bettman to make sure he's aware of this.

I was going to say, pretty sure he isn’t allowed to be around the team, including management and coaches, or facilities

 

[Micklebot]

I was going to say, pretty sure he isn’t allowed to be around the team, including management and coaches, or facilities

The mentioned he wouldn't be allowed until close to when the suspension was over, I'm guessing we reached that point.

 

[BondraTime]

The mentioned he wouldn't be allowed until close to when the suspension was over, I'm guessing we reached that point.

>40% of a long suspension remaining seems wild to me.

 

[Senscore]

That seems illegal; Pinto isn't supposed to be around the team or using the facilities yet.

I'm going to e-mail Bettman to make sure he's aware of this.

Kelly McCrimmon is already on hold

 

[GCK]

I was going to say, pretty sure he isn’t allowed to be around the team, including management and coaches, or facilities

It’s not a team facility but Alfie might have just cost another lost pick.

 

[Micklebot]

It’s not a team facility but Alfie might have just cost another lost pick.

I can't imagine he'd come to Ottawa without the league clearing it.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I was going to say, pretty sure he isn’t allowed to be around the team, including management and coaches, or facilities

Maybe since he isn’t under contract he has more freedom?

 

[Crosside]

SNAPSHOTS: Suspended centre Shane Pinto has resumed skating in Ottawa

Centre Shane Pinto has made another small step on the road to his return to the Ottawa Senators from his 41-game suspension for breaking National Hockey League gambling rules.

ottawasun.com

 

[Cosmix]

I just read through the comments; what a waste of time!

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

SNAPSHOTS: Suspended centre Shane Pinto has resumed skating in Ottawa

Centre Shane Pinto has made another small step on the road to his return to the Ottawa Senators from his 41-game suspension for breaking National Hockey League gambling rules.

ottawasun.com

From the article:

Pinto, 22, isn’t allowed to use the Canadian Tire Centre or skate with Senators players until Jan. 11, which would be 10 days before he became eligible to suit up against the Philadelphia Flyers on Jan. 21.

There is nothing in NHL rules blocking Pinto from using the Bell Sensplex and the Senators reached out to officials at the league office before having Pinto return to town.

 

[scout20]

11 games until the Shane Pinto SUSPENSION is over.

 

[BUCKLE UP]

At this point, does Shane take whatever the team offers him? Or does his agent offer him more shitty advice and tell him to sit out?

 

[Joeffice]

Absolutely, Centre or D over winger all day. I just hate the narrative that Kubalik is terrible, I mean he makes less than the league average, what were people expecting.

I was expecting a run at Gretzky's 92 goals.

But that's just me.

 

[dumbdick]

So if bowtie bruce is right, and pinto signs for $875,000 with half the season gone, does that pump the annual cap hit up to about $1.75M?

Or is he taking $875K/2 cash for the remainder of the season ($437K) and getting a cap hit of $875?

Anyone know if the latter situation is possible? i.e., if you can offer a contract below league minimum as long as it prorates up to the minimum over the full year?

Aside from these questions, what is pintos status after this season? UFA? RFA?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

So if bowtie bruce is right, and pinto signs for $875,000 with half the season gone, does that pump the annual cap hit up to about $1.75M?

Or is he taking $875K/2 cash for the remainder of the season ($437K) and getting a cap hit of $875?

Anyone know if the latter situation is possible? i.e., if you can offer a contract below league minimum as long as it prorates up to the minimum over the full year?

Aside from these questions, what is pintos status after this season? UFA? RFA?

If its 1 year 875 , the cap hit will be 875 (AAV) he'll get paid 1/2 or 41 games worth that he is eligible to play.
He'll be an RFA

 

[Korpse]

So if bowtie bruce is right, and pinto signs for $875,000 with half the season gone, does that pump the annual cap hit up to about $1.75M?

Or is he taking $875K/2 cash for the remainder of the season ($437K) and getting a cap hit of $875?

Anyone know if the latter situation is possible? i.e., if you can offer a contract below league minimum as long as it prorates up to the minimum over the full year?

Aside from these questions, what is pintos status after this season? UFA? RFA?

Haven’t seen any confirmation on it but I think the prorated cap hit rule only applies to group 2 RFA’s the same way the Dec 1 deadline does. Pinto being a 10.2(c) RFA, I don’t believe those same rules apply, he was also ineligible for offer sheets. He will become a group 2 RFA after his next contract.

 

[SanderSen]

Or maybe they were filming a Bet365 commercial for the NHL? Saw Mathews in one during the game last night.