Proposal: Seth Jones for M. Marner

[Kelly]

Leafs aren't trading Marner period.

 

[go4hockey]

seems fair to me, not that wild of a proposal fair value for value....

Top flight defenseman simply hold more value than top flight wingers. Just the way it is.

 

[Hockey Stick]

Columbus quickly says no, for hockey reasons and financial reasons

 

[Crede777]

A star winger can attract casual fans better than a #1D csn though and CBJ could probably use the ticket/jersey sales Marner would bring.

Winning attracts fans the most. And teams built around centers or defensemen win more than teams built around a winger.

 

[Baddkarma]

Leafs would have to add more than they could handle as an organization.

 

[go4hockey]

A star winger can attract casual fans better than a #1D csn though and CBJ could probably use the ticket/jersey sales Marner would bring.

Nothing helps ticket sales more than winning. Star defenseman help you win 10x more than star wingers. Your in blue fantasy land.

 

[Kshahdoo]

There are probably a couple of players in the league, Columbus would trade Jones for, and Marner isn't one of them.

 

[Fro]

Jones wouldn't be traded for a winger
Jones at 25 and on a perfect deal will not be traded

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Not sure if it's a case of Marner being underrated or Jones being overrated, but Jones flat out isn't as good or valuable as Marner. Let alone way more valuable like some people seem to think

 

[Petrus]

I’m would think Columbus is going to ask Matthews not Marner if there was a trade discussion between the 2 teams.

 

[OVO16]

Leafs arent trading Marner.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Why do people keep thinking Toronto can trade one of their overpaid wingers for some of the best young defenseman in the game?

Nobody is going to trade young #1 defenseman for an 11M winger lol.

 

[GOilers88]

Not sure if it's a case of Marner being underrated or Jones being overrated, but Jones flat out isn't as good or valuable as Marner. Let alone way more valuable like some people seem to think

Neither player is being under or overrated. #1 Defensemen are more valuable than wingers. It's the way it is. You're free to disagree, but the only people who seem to disagree are Leaf Fans. That should be telling.

 

[Kelly]

Neither player is being under or overrated. #1 Defensemen are more valuable than wingers. It's the way it is. You're free to disagree, but the only people who seem to disagree are Leaf Fans. That should be telling.

Not surprising since most non-leaf fans are out to lunch in regards to Leaf players, always have been.

 

[Fro]

Not surprising since most non-leaf fans are out to lunch in regards to Leaf players, always have been.

Please...not 1 person said anything negative about Marner so far ..just wingers are less valued than #1D...facts are facts

 

[Dominance]

Not sure if it's a case of Marner being underrated or Jones being overrated, but Jones flat out isn't as good or valuable as Marner. Let alone way more valuable like some people seem to think

No, I think it’s a fair deal. I just don’t want to add to Marner to get it done, or trade a core player we just signed to a long term contract. If CBJ fans don’t want to do it either, that’s completely fine.

I actually think both players are overrated on here.

 

[GOilers88]

Not surprising since most non-leaf fans are out to lunch in regards to Leaf players, always have been.

Marner is an amazing talent, and one of the best play drivers I've seen in recent years. But I firmly believe that Seth Jones, while playing the much more.important position and making half the amount of money as Marner is more valuable. The one constant I've always seen on HF is that #1 Defensemen,and #1 Centers are the most important positions on a team. This doesn't suddenly change because it's Mitch Marner.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Dmen like Jones hold more value because they are rarer.

Marner may very well be the better player (debatable), but rarity = value.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Not a big fan of Jones. Prefer Werenski.

 

[Kelly]

Please...not 1 person said anything negative about Marner so far ..just wingers are less valued than #1D...facts are facts

Ridiculous blanket statement.

Rielly more valuable than Kucherov?

 

[Kelly]

Marner is an amazing talent, and one of the best play drivers I've seen in recent years. But I firmly believe that Seth Jones, while playing the much more.important position and making half the amount of money as Marner is more valuable. The one constant I've always seen on HF is that #1 Defensemen,and #1 Centers are the most important positions on a team. This doesn't suddenly change because it's Mitch Marner.

Well thankfully Leafs aren't trading Pokemon cards and don't care which one is more rare.

You take Marner away from this team and add Jones we are worse. Simple as that.

Marner seems to be underrated here, he's gonna be a 90-100 point player or morw for the next 10+ years, driving play. Keeping the Leafs as one of the top offensive teams in the league. Take that to the bank.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Ridiculous blanket statement.

Rielly more valuable than Kucherov?

I get the comparison with Kucherov/Marner but to believe Reilly and Jones are on the same tier is flat-out wrong.

 

[TFHockey]

I am kind of surprised that more Leaf fans aren't in favor of this. Jones would go a long way to fixing their D, and to my mind that is the last piece of the puzzle for Toronto to be a real cup contender.

Marner is a gifted winger, one of the best in the game, but the Leafs have a lot of talent up front and could survive a Marner trade. Also, at just under $11 Million AAV, Marner's contract uses up a fair chunk of cap space. Jones at $5.4 Million for this year and two more after.. I think this is kind of a no brainer.

Just my opinion though gang.

 

[Eye Test]

So many marner threads... were good keeping him.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Why do people keep thinking Toronto can trade one of their overpaid wingers for some of the best young defenseman in the game?

Nobody is going to trade young #1 defenseman for an 11M winger lol.

Kind of funny that you're praising Jones for being so young and he's actually almost 3 years older than Marner