Seth Jones and his future (Sportsnet reports he intends to test free agency)
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Dougie is not especially into museums, I think that might have been a joke that got taken seriously. IIRC the real thing that happened is that he took a pass on a team night out in Calgary so he could stay at home and read. He's more of a bookish introvert than a partyboy and that makes hockey people talk.
Yes it's unlikely that Dougie would sign with the Jackets, but you have to shoot your shot. You probably won't draft a better D-man than that. Make your pitch. Set up a meeting with Jack Hanna. Back up the Brinks truck.
As is Seattle will protect the big 3 - Makar, Girard, and Toews. They're not going to miss Graves.
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Oh ok. I wasn't sure when he said, no it's not true if it was him liking museums wasn’t true or him getting traded because of museums wasn't true.
A zoo is a museum of animals.
Graves is better in defense, his strenght and hitting are good. He played better in PO. His salary isn`t high. Lose him only so ... . And especially if they would want to get Jones... have three offensive d-men (without Seth) isn`t enough extra. In addition don`t forget about Byram. So IMHO his loss would be awkward for Avs. But you`re right value for Graves would be lower than for Girard. I was thinking about Girard's possible trade and I wasn't concentrating directly on the players. My mistake...
Btw, Makar, Jones, Toews, Byram, Graves - IMHO Colorado`s defense could be very good.
And if trade we could take ... Jean-Luc Foudy
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Graves is better in defense, his strenght and hitting are good. He played better in PO. His salary isn`t high. Lose him only so... . And especially if they would want to get Jones... have three offensive d-men (without Seth) isn`t enough extra. In addition don`t forget about Byram. So IMHO his loss would be awkward for Avs. But you`re right value for Graves would be lower than for Girard. I was thinking about Girard's possible trade and I wasn't concentrating directly on the players.
Btw, Makar, Jones, Toews, Graves, Byram and Timmins - IMHO Colorado`s defense could be very good.
Graves' size is a big plus, but he is known for bad giveaways and missed assignments, not a defensive gem. Certainly not in the playoffs. He's been a target of angry Avs fans in the playoffs last year and this year. You might remember he got burned by Stone on the OT goal in game 5. I would structure the Avs top 4 like this:
Toews - Makar
Byram - Jones
That's not too much offense. Just replacing Girard with Jones should make them much more resilient defensively in the playoffs.
I`m afraid I was thinking about Girard`s trade and I wasn`t concentrating directly on the players... . My mistake.
I wrote he`s better in defense (for his salary) than Girard and not he`s something extra.
And find similar type of player after compensation for Jones wouldn`t have to be so easy.I remember and read "happy" comments, but still, Mark Stone is higher level. Btw comments about Girard weren`t, diplomatic said, positive too.
TOP 4 Avs... I though about these couples too.
Too much offense would be with Girard not without Girard. Because IMHO Colorado needs at least still one good, strenght stay-home d-man with good play in the front of the net.
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I`m afraid I was thinking about Girard`s trade and I wasn`t concentrating directly on the players... . My mistake.
I wrote he`s better in defense (for his salary) than Girard and not he`s something extra.
I remember and read "happy" comments, but still, Mark Stone is higher level. Btw comments about Girard weren`t, diplomatic said, positive too.
TOP 4 Avs... I though about these couples too.
Yes certainly it is a too-harsh standard, Vegas can make great players look bad.
On the other hand that Vegas team is something Colorado will likely have to go through again in coming years and the Avs have to find ways to improve. It makes me appreciate Werenski and Jones, who despite their flaws, are pretty flawless when it comes to heavy playoff hockey. They are unmoved by a heavy forecheck, I can't remember them ever being weakened by it.
Ondrej Palat said the Werenski-Jones pair is the best in NHL.
You're right, but Colorado doesn't have much time.
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Avs fan here. I'm kind of a fan of Graves tbh, he's usually pretty reliable, but yeah he's lower on the list of most avs fans compared to G, Toews, makar, etc etc
Anyways I'm here to try to determine what sort of package it would take to get Jones during the off-season/trade deadline... Would Girard + Jost+ 1st work?
What are you guys really looking for? Do you like any of our prospects (would prefer to hang on to Newhook)... But like Bowers, Kaut, Timmins, Barron, Ranta, O'Connor, Foudy?
What are you guys really looking for? Do you like any of our prospects (would prefer to hang on to Newhook)... But like Bowers, Kaut, Timmins, Barron, Ranta, O'Connor, Foudy?
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Last idea I had, was Girard, 1st, rights to Landy...something conditional if Landy doesn't sign
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Yeah -- I'm not seeing a Landeskog fit at all from either side.
Sign me up for Girard, Newhook, and a 2022 first for an extended Jones.
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