Low Effort GDT Sens vs Leafs | Bellevegas Edition | Friday Sept. 30th, 7PM | SN1

[Ice-Tray]

I agree the lines are in a blender but I don’t think it’s fair to paint these guys as random players, everyone but Rubins has already played in the Sens “system” either in Ottawa or in Belleville where Mann says he implements a system similar to DJ’s for consistency.

Several years into his coaching tenure it should be more clear what to expect of players defensively.

Not a single team we have faced has looked good from a ‘systems’ stand point, including tonight

It’s preseason, so it always comes down to effort level and individual skill as opposed to any kind of team play.

The best thing about this game in my opinion, and to me the most important, was how good the PP looked as the game went on. Great chemistry on display.

lot of emotional fluctuations from in here. I think folks need to reevaluate their expectations and realign them with what the team has said, what players have said, and what the coach and manager has said.

Meaningful games at the TDL…. Not playoffs, not cup, not amongst the best teams in the league. We’re not making that huge of a leap in one season.

 

[bert]

I agree the lines are in a blender but I don’t think it’s fair to paint these guys as random players, everyone but Rubins has already played in the Sens “system” either in Ottawa or in Belleville where Mann says he implements a system similar to DJ’s for consistency.

Several years into his coaching tenure it should be more clear what to expect of players defensively.

Fair enough those are legitimate points. Perhaps it could have been better that definitely could have contributed. But they were out worked tonight. One team was more desperate. It happens, lets see how the 2nd group does tomorrow.

 

[Bileur]

Not a single team we have faced has looked good from a ‘systems’ stand point, including tonight

It’s preseason, so it always comes down to effort level and individual skill as opposed to any kind of team play.

The best thing about this game in my opinion, and to me the most important, was how good the PP looked as the game went on. Great chemistry on display.

lot of emotional fluctuations from in here. I think folks need to reevaluate their expectations and realign them with what the team has said, what players have said, and what the coach and manager has said.

Meaningful games at the TDL…. Not playoffs, not cup, not amongst the best teams in the league. We’re not making that huge of a leap in one season.

I’m not panicking at all. Bert is right about it being preseason and vets having low effort, nonetheless it is a concerning pattern we’ve seen at the start of seasons for a few years now. Hopefully it gets sorted out before the games start to count. We know DJ is on the hot seat and can’t afford another bad start.

On the bright side, Crookshank continues to impress. I think we’ve got a player there.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I’m not panicking at all. Bert is right about it being preseason and vets having low effort, nonetheless it is a concerning pattern we’ve seen at the start of seasons for a few years now. Hopefully it gets sorted out before the games start to count. We know DJ is on the hot seat and can’t afford another bad start.

On the bright side, Crookshank continues to impress. I think we’ve got a player there.

I understand that given the D we have iced the last two seasons, it does look eerily similar to a preseason game lol!

Yeah Crookshank looked good again, and I thought Boucher looked good as well and was starting to showcase some skills as the game went on. He’s a nifty player.

The expectations have risen in terms of DJ for sure, and he knows it as he’s talked about it. The expectations still have to be reasonable, we need to take a step this year towards making the playoffs a realistic expectations. It’s a big step from last season, but we aren’t likely to take a huge leap.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Coaching is still the biggest concern, moreso than another d-man will ever be.

 

[Crosside]

Smith: We weren't connected all night

Sens head coach DJ Smith addresses the media following the team's 6-3 loss to the Maple Leafs.

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Batherson: The chemistry's just not there yet

Sens forward Drake Batherson addresses the media following the team's -3 loss to the Maple Leafs.

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[Crosside]

Norris: Lot of good memories, kind of where everything started for me

Sens forward Josh Norris addresses the media following the team's 6-3 loss to the Maple Leafs.

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[Korpse]

Ottawa has yet to play a game this preseason where anyone knew where to be in their own end.

D zone structure looked fine to me, problem was the amount of turnovers. They struggled to recover when the puck was turned over. Was my first opportunity to watch this preseason and was expecting more from JBD based on some things I’ve heard. He really struggled with the puck under pressure, he has to move it quicker. Really uncharacteristic effort from Zub too.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

You might not be panicking yet but you should be concerned about our defensive system.

If you're not, you're in denial.

 

[KingAlfie11]

No one is panicking yet but I think there's reason to be concern a little bit at least, if we lose versus Montreal that will not be good

 

[SensFactor]

Was at the game and thought Chabot really struggled tonight. He is very passive on the PP. He doesn't shoot and will defer to wings 9 out of 10 times. There is no threat from the point on the pp. I'd like to see Zub, Branny or Sanderson get a chance

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

No one is panicking yet but I think there's reason to be concern a little bit at least, if we lose versus Montreal that will not be good

Probably because it’s preseason lol

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Not a single team we have faced has looked good from a ‘systems’ stand point, including tonight

It’s preseason, so it always comes down to effort level and individual skill as opposed to any kind of team play.

Absolutely false. Tonight we clearly outshined them in individual skill and matched in hustle (minus Chabot and Zub). But the Leaf guys were all where they were supposed to be. Their passes were to areas where they knew where the other guy was going to be. They 1000% exhibited a system. We lost 6-2 to a C team with half our A team that have been here for a couple seasons. This is as big a wakeup call as can possibly be even in pre-season.

 

[dumbdick]

Chins up boys, we'll get 'em next time.

 

[Ice-Tray]

You might not be panicking yet but you should be concerned about our defensive system.

If you're not, you're in denial.

If you don’t agree with me, you’re in denial.

Those fans are already in mid season form.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Absolutely false. Tonight we clearly outshined them in individual skill and matched in hustle (minus Chabot and Zub). But the Leaf guys were all where they were supposed to be. Their passes were to areas where they knew where the other guy was going to be. They 1000% exhibited a system. We lost 6-2 to a C team with half our A team that have been here for a couple seasons. This is as big a wakeup call as can possibly be even in pre-season.

No. They out husltled us by a large degree until we were down and then we had to try and make a game if it

No, they weren’t beating us with ‘systems’….

But it’s the new thing….

Buck up dude, it’s preseason and you’re worrying like a ….

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Batherson with Stützle was the pairing of the night, they seem to have great chemistry naturally and compliment each other’s skill set. Lots of pretty passes and chances between them

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

If you don’t agree with me, you’re in denial.

Those fans are already in mid season form.

You are also in mid season form...

 

[Korpse]

Was at the game and thought Chabot really struggled tonight. He is very passive on the PP. He doesn't shoot and will defer to wings 9 out of 10 times. There is no threat from the point on the pp. I'd like to see Zub, Branny or Sanderson get a chance

That's not a Chabot issue, it's how the PP is designed. They work mostly off Stutzle or look for the one-timer to Norris. Having a different player there won't create more point shots, because those aren't the looks they are trying to create.

 

[Micklebot]

D zone structure looked fine to me, problem was the amount of turnovers. They struggled to recover when the puck was turned over. Was my first opportunity to watch this preseason and was expecting more from JBD based on some things I’ve heard. He really struggled with the puck under pressure, he has to move it quicker. Really uncharacteristic effort from Zub too.

I was disappointed with JBD last night too, but having an off game when the entire team seemed off isn't all that surprising. I do think he looked much better in his other game.

 

[Micklebot]

That's not a Chabot issue, it's how the PP is designed. They work mostly off Stutzle or look for the one-timer to Norris. Having a different player there won't create more point shots, because those aren't the looks they are trying to create.

Bit of a chicken and the egg scenario, if we had a guy with a bomb of a shot for example we likely adapt the pp system to take advantage. I think Chabot is better on the PP than he's given credit for and generally agree with you but I do wish he was more of a shooting threat.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Batherson with Stützle was the pairing of the night, they seem to have great chemistry naturally and compliment each other’s skill set. Lots of pretty passes and chances between them

I don't think there's anyone on the team that doesn't have chemistry with Batherson. He's a lot like Stone in that way where he just clicks with everyone.

 

[Bevans]

That's not a Chabot issue, it's how the PP is designed. They work mostly off Stutzle or look for the one-timer to Norris. Having a different player there won't create more point shots, because those aren't the looks they are trying to create.

Chicken and egg.

Chabot doesn't score pp goals. If he could it would create more space for Norris and stutzle. Everyone knows Chabot cant/won't score from the point.

 

[Korpse]

Bit of a chicken and the egg scenario, if we had a guy with a bomb of a shot for example we likely adapt the pp system to take advantage. I think Chabot is better on the PP than he's given credit for and generally agree with you but I do wish he was more of a shooting threat.

To a degree, none of Brannstrom, Zub or Sanderson are that guy either. Chabot has a fine shot and can create lanes and if he had a better shot I'm sure they would look to use it a little more but I find league wide, there more focus on lateral puck movement rather than the point shot and traffic.

I was disappointed with JBD last night too, but having an off game when the entire team seemed off isn't all that surprising. I do think he looked much better in his other game.

It is difficult to piece together a good game when those around you are struggling as well though my issue with his performance is more on an individual level. He held onto the puck for way too long. That Toronto group was hungry for the puck and he looked like a deer in headlights at times. Zub struggled moving the puck as well but it was more of an issue with timing, and guys not being where they should, that is less concerning. Hopefully JBD can rebound and have better showings but I am a little worried based on that performance.

 

[GCK]

You might not be panicking yet but you should be concerned about our defensive system.

If you're not, you're in denial.

Obviously concerned but not based on last night. I truly believe we needed to bring in an associate HC whose role would be to implement structure.