Sens Tank Nation Part 1- The Fruit of Futility

[S3rkie]

Tkachuk's totally going to stay in college and go the UFA route isn't he?

My god that would be hilarious/awful for that fan base.

 

[jaems]

Just imagine if the Sens don't get Sergachev and optimize the trade on dumping Ryan per pressure from Eugene Melnyk?

 

[JLo217]

Would he though? The avs wouldn't be in nearly as good of a position if they didn't trade him(pipeline & chemistry wise). We should be thanking Dutchy for giving up on this team, it was a blessing in disguise.

Fair point. Still though. I'm not sure he can really ask for a trade, I think it'd make him look bad.

 

[Hasbro]

Fair point. Still though. I'm not sure he can really ask for a trade, I think it'd make him look bad.

He has a passive way of getting a trade, which is just not signing and extension and the Sens will dump him by the deadline.

 

[UncleRisto]

I like how even this list is so sad.

 

[MarkT]

I've been looking at the Sens board, and according to the Sens faithful, this is their likely lineup next season not counting anything they get in a Karlsson trade and assuming Ryan and Anderson aren't moved.

Ryan Dzingel - Matt Duchene - Mark Stone
Mikkel Boedker - Jean Gabriel Pageau - Bobby Ryan*
Zack Smith - Colin White - Marian Gaborik
Magnus Paajarvi - Nick Paul - Tom Pyatt
Max McCormick

Thomas Chabot - Cody Ceci
Christian Wolanin - Chris Wideman
Mark Borowiecki - Ben Harpur

Craig Anderson*
Mike Condon

Unless they go purely for roster players in a Karlsson trade, I don't see how they're not a lottery team.

 

[Alex Jones]

That lineup is probably just as bad as the Avs last overall season

 

[Patagonia]

I've been looking at the Sens board, and according to the Sens faithful, this is their likely lineup next season not counting anything they get in a Karlsson trade and assuming Ryan and Anderson aren't moved.

Ryan Dzingel - Matt Duchene - Mark Stone
Mikkel Boedker - Jean Gabriel Pageau - Bobby Ryan*
Zack Smith - Colin White - Marian Gaborik
Magnus Paajarvi - Nick Paul - Tom Pyatt
Max McCormick

Thomas Chabot - Cody Ceci
Christian Wolanin - Chris Wideman
Mark Borowiecki - Ben Harpur

Craig Anderson*
Mike Condon

Unless they go purely for roster players in a Karlsson trade, I don't see how they're not a lottery team.

Might be some improvement when inserting the prospects...

Brady Tkachuk
Colin White
Logan Brown
Alex Formenton
Drake Batherson
Filip Chlapik

Still terrible and cannot see them finishing higher than the bottom 5. I think it would be close with BUF, MTL and NYI challenging for last overall.

 

[Grigowski]

Ottawa is like a car accident: Nobody wants to look at it, but everybody watches while driving by....

 

[MarkT]

Might be some improvement when inserting the prospects...

Brady Tkachuk
Colin White
Logan Brown
Alex Formenton
Drake Batherson
Filip Chlapik

Still terrible and cannot see them finishing higher than the bottom 5. I think it would be close with BUF, MTL and NYI challenging for last overall.

Well I had White in there already, but Tkachuk is likely going back to college, Brown might still not be ready (Sens fans didn't put him in the roster at least), and the others probably aren't ready yet either.

In any case, the good news for us is even with Karlsson in the lineup it's not a good team. I also personally enjoy the fact that Duchene left Colorado to avoid the exact situation he now finds himself in. Serves him right.

 

[Patagonia]

Well I had White in there already, but Tkachuk is likely going back to college, Brown might still not be ready (Sens fans didn't put him in the roster at least), and the others probably aren't ready yet either.

In any case, the good news for us is even with Karlsson in the lineup it's not a good team. I also personally enjoy the fact that Duchene left Colorado to avoid the exact situation he now finds himself in. Serves him right.

I actually believe Duchene is in a worse situation than the AVs terrible 2016/17 season. At least the future seemed brighter with prospects and picks regardless of the Team Standings. Sens are a mess with the personnel and ownership.

 

[Thepoolmaster]

My guess is Duchene will leave in free agency for Nashville

 

[MarkT]

My guess is Duchene will leave in free agency for Nashville

If the Sens are smart they'll trade him before that happens. That's a big if though.

 

[Patagonia]

My guess is Duchene will leave in free agency for Nashville

Duchene loves Nashville, but wouldn't be surprised if he decides on a major city LAK or NYR. MTL might be a possibility as well. I think he wants to being a winner, but a big city not only will result in a big payday it'll include the recognition he seems to crave.

 

[Thepoolmaster]

If the Sens are smart they'll trade him before that happens. That's a big if though.

I think that they should trade him too but I'm not sure that they will. Teams that trade for him will likely want an extension in place unless it's a deadline rental deal. It's rare someone of duchenes age and skill gets moved at the deadline though.

Duchene loves Nashville, but wouldn't be surprised if he decides on a major city LAK or NYR. MTL might be a possibility as well. I think he wants to being a winner, but a big city not only will result in a big payday it'll include the recognition he seems to crave.

I think Duchene will be more likely to want to go to a winner. Nashville is in a good spot to add him and be a contender.

 

[MarkT]

I think that they should trade him too but I'm not sure that they will. Teams that trade for him will likely want an extension in place unless it's a deadline rental deal. It's rare someone of duchenes age and skill gets moved at the deadline though.

I think Duchene will be more likely to want to go to a winner. Nashville is in a good spot to add him and be a contender.

I could see him getting moved at the deadline if he hasn't signing an extension with Ottawa and they're out of playoff contention. It would be unusual, but nothing about Ottawa is usual right now.

As for Nashville, yeah he might want to go there, but they already have Johansen and Turris locked up long term for a total of 14M. With most of their defense currently underpaid, I doubt they could afford to add him.

 

[Patagonia]

I could see him getting moved at the deadline if he hasn't signing an extension with Ottawa and they're out of playoff contention. It would be unusual, but nothing about Ottawa is usual right now.

As for Nashville, yeah he might want to go there, but they already have Johansen and Turris locked up long term for a total of 14M. With most of their defense currently underpaid, I doubt they could afford to add him.

AVs will be ready to catch what players NSH needs to jettison for Duchene.

Imagine if that player is Turris...

 

[BobRossColton]

Has this already been discussed about the range that we hope for the Sens to end up before a lottery?

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Has this already been discussed about the range that we hope for the Sens to end up before a lottery?

I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking, but we expect them to finish bottom 3.

 

[BobRossColton]

We got jumped from 1st to 4th because of the lottery, should we hope that Sens stay out of the 1st and linger around 3-6 overall?

 

[MarkT]

Has this already been discussed about the range that we hope for the Sens to end up before a lottery?

A lot depends on what happens with Karlsson/Ryan/Stone but I'd put their ceiling at bottom 10 in the league.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Has this already been discussed about the range that we hope for the Sens to end up before a lottery?

I mean we hope it’s #1. Id say realistically we have a chance at picks 1-10.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

We got jumped from 1st to 4th because of the lottery, should we hope that Sens stay out of the 1st and linger around 3-6 overall?

...no, that would be incredibly dumb.

 

[Ararana]

We got jumped from 1st to 4th because of the lottery, should we hope that Sens stay out of the 1st and linger around 3-6 overall?

I feel pretty good that the one time the Sens manage to win the lottery is when someone else has their pick.

 

[Hasbro]

I don't think I'm being optimistic feeling that the Sens get out of the bottom 5-7 in the league. So wdoomsday scenario: the 10th pick. Right now there are about 10 forwards I like in 2019 off the top of my head: Hughes, Kaapo Kakko, Alex Turcotte, Alex Newhook, Dylan Cozens, Kirby Dach, Peyton Krebs, Cole Caufield, Nolan Foote, Ryan Suzuki. Not to mention there should be 1-3 Defensemen in taken in the top 9.

Add even your least favorite of those names in the blank and how does the deal look to you?

Sam Girard
Shane Bowers
Vladislav Kamenev
Andrew Hammond
Justus Annunen
Danila Zhuravlyon
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Ottawa's 2019 3rd