And holy crap was he invisible.
Except for taking a dumb penalty after the whistle.
Still got it!
And holy crap was he invisible.
You've got to be trolling. We are winning without a PPG player, we'll be that much better with a PPG player. Benn and Couture have a lot to accomplish before they can come close to having a career like Spezza.
Even when Spezza isn't contributing offensively, opposing teams will always line up their top D pairing against him. This means our depth has a better chance of scoring.
If the Turris line, Smith line, or OB line have to face their top 4 of other teams consistently, our scoring potential drops the same way we'd like our chances better of having Karlsson and Methot against the Leafs second line than we do against the Kessel line.
We also need veterans on the team to lead our youth if we ever want to win anything. I'll take a 29? yo top 15 league wide centre in his prime as a vet any day. Having a bunch of youth gives you what Edmonton has - fun but chaotic hockey with little hope of winning a cup. Furthermore, with the cap, having all these young players needing pay bumps at the same time isn't ideal as you'll likely end up having to trade some away (leaving you with what we have now, good veteran skill with young guys). And to come full circle you'd be suggesting they trade the older Eberle's/RNH/Yakupovs for more young talent to rinse and repeat without ever being a cup contender because you keep trading the leadership away.
I'm happy the Sens fans no longer underrate him, no more stupid booing, now all the constant "trade Spezza" are in jest, appreciating the strides he's made defensively, and a consensus on the next captain.
Why even having a thought like trading Spezza for a player who at his best is worse that Spezza at his worst?
Are you talking about a 1-for-1 trade? Or Spezza for either Benn + or Couture +?
Can you all please stop responding to this rambling troll so I don't need to see his posts? It's very discouraging putting someone on your ignore list and then seeing every single one of their posts.
I would consider what you do here trolling. You cannot seriously be this clueless. You take our best player and compare him to two players that aren't even in the same ball park. Good job.
two good games without spezza = team doesnt miss a beat without him.
would you care to provide this team's record in spezza's career in games with and without him MAK, or are you the type of scientist that says I dont get sick without a flu shot, therefore flu shots are a government conspiracy?
Used to be more fun with advanced statistics, you're lazy now.
My eyes tell me Spezza single handedly forced Ottawa to rebuild after a pitiful performance when he was injured, and neither Couture nor Benn would have stopped it.
We Sens fans will remain ignorant and see to it that Spezza is the captain for the next decade.Honestly, I think you guys just have absolutely no clue how good Benn and Couture are.
We Sens fans will remain ignorant and see to it that Spezza is the captain for the next decade.
Oh right. I forgot the solution is to bring up DD. This will solve all the scoring problems.
Straight up
Good trade for Ottawa
He's broken and not that much better than them anyway
No, but if we end up putting Zibby as the 2nd line centre than it could be worthwhile to call up Grant or Dizzy. Both Grant and Dizzy are better suited for and more likely to make an impact on the 4th line than Regin.
It's been 7 games. What's Doughty's and Weber's excuses? There both expected to put up more pts than Regin and have none. How bout Briere, Haggelin, Kreider, Jussi Jokinen? Small sample is small.
Really depends on your expectations. You should not expect Regin to be a consistant offensive threat. If he was, he already be a top 6 guy. If you expect him to pace in the 30-35 range, you can expect slumps. This is just that.
Edit: As Holdurbreathe mentioned, he hasn't played a lot in the last 2 years, some time and reps will improve his play.
that's debatable.
We Sens fans will remain ignorant and see to it that Spezza is the captain for the next decade.
Well it is speculative on my part. In some sense I was basing it on the performance of Zibanejad on the 4th line. Grant and Dziurzynski (while clearly not as offensively talented as Zibanejad) are both big, physical, fast, strong defensively and drive hard to the net. If the Senators were to take Zibanejad off of the 4th line and move him to the second line, Dizzy and Grant are more likely to fill that role vacated by Zibby than Regin.
that's not a true 4th line. the greening - smith - neil line is closer to a prototypical 4th line than anything. so if any of those guys go down then yes i can see dd or grant come in.
Well it is speculative on my part. In some sense I was basing it on the performance of Zibanejad on the 4th line. Grant and Dziurzynski (while clearly not as offensively talented as Zibanejad) are both big, physical, fast, strong defensively and drive hard to the net. If the Senators were to take Zibanejad off of the 4th line and move him to the second line, Dizzy and Grant are more likely to fill that role vacated by Zibby than Regin.
that's not a true 4th line. the greening - smith - neil line is closer to a prototypical 4th line than anything. so if any of those guys go down then yes i can see dd or grant come in.
Our "4th line" last game was Zibanejad-O'Brien-Condra before that it was O'Brien-Regin-Condra. Yeah they may play more minutes than some other lines if they are having a good game (and some other lines aren't performing as well) but they are still considered the 4th line.
With Spezza out, we will need to get reliable offense out of our top six. Regin isn't really a reliable point producer so that 2nd line center spot will likely go to either Da Costa or Zibanejad. If it goes to Zibanejad then Regin gets demoted to the 4th line with O'Brien and Condra. Consdiering the fact that that line has been arguably more effective without him than with him, he could be scratched in favor of a player/ prospect more suited to that 4th line role. Ideally that spot would be given to either Hoffman or Stone, but considering that both of them are injured they will look elsewhere. The other options to fill that 4th line LW spot are Daugavins, Grant and Dziurzynski. Seeing how effective the 4th line was with Zibby, all three (based on playing style) are more likely to bring a similar skill set as Zibanejad to that line than Regin. That is why two prospects (Grant and Dziurzynski) who arguably have a higher probability of sticking with the organization long term than either Daugavins or Regin may be given a chance to show what they can do at this level.
With the loss of Spezza every line needs to be performing. We won't be able to win sustainably if we have three lines rolling and creating chances and one line just killing time on the clock. Last night Regin's line (aside from Silfverberg who IMO had one of his best games so far) was basically just killing time; they weren't doing a good job at creating scoring chances. We can't really afford to have Regin (or even Lattendresse for that matter) trying to find his game out there. We need players to step up and make an impact nearly every shift. Regin and Lattendresse are arguably the only two players last night that didn't really step up their game.
To Washington: Latendresse LW, Filatov LW or Regin C & Condra RW
To Ottawa: Tom Wilson RW
- Zibanejad replaces Latendresse, Grant replaces Regin or Condra & Filatov, who cares?
- by the time Wilson is ready for the NHL, Neil could be ready to be replaced.
You're talking about a team missing Spezza that had Redden, Chara, Vermette, Fisher, Havlat, Prime Phillips, Prime Alfie and Prime Heatley vs. a team with old man Alfie...old man Phillips, Turris and Karlsson.
This guy will really work at his trolling.
To Washington: Latendresse LW, Filatov LW or Regin C & Condra RW
To Ottawa: Tom Wilson RW