Pre-Game Talk: Seattle @ Vancouver, 7PM PST, SN1, NHL Network

cabinessence

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Seattle will dominate Vancouver this year no matter how good/bad the teams are. Van loves having sand kicked when given the opportunity to elate the enemy. Pull the go goalie? What team gives up more empty net goals? Other team goes for 6 attackers? Why stomp the enemy when up...unless the empty net line is out there.
 

wonton15

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Schenn shouldn't be anywhere near our lineup. I think Burroughs has supplanted him based on merit.

I think Giuseppe has made the team. Dowling looked ok but these guys are just dime a dozen waiver wire fodder - overall not too much to offer.

Podkolzin appears to have moved on from the "feeling things out" stage. Looked way more confident
 

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Schenn shouldn't be anywhere near our lineup. I think Burroughs has supplanted him based on merit.

I think Giuseppe has made the team. Dowling looked ok but these guys are just dime a dozen waiver wire fodder - overall not too much to offer.

Podkolzin appears to have moved on from the "feeling things out" stage. Looked way more confident

Di Giuseppe and Dowling are both Jayson Megnas. Small top-6 energy players in the AHL who just lack the tools to be anything more than replacement-level NHLers as callups. But as temporary fillers for Sutter/Motte, I guess they don't actively hurt you, either.
 

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I dont know why i listen to corey hirsch or how hes employed on the post game show, I disagree with almost all his takes, now hes criticizing how seattle plays.

Get used to it, daryl sutter is back in our divison as well. Seattle looked fine.
 
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That 2nd to last shift by Podkolzin was his best. He really dominated in the ozone, stealing the puck 3 times, then, then following up with crisp passes 3 times.

Weird comment by Corey Hirsch saying that he can't see Podkolzin playing the 3rd line, and his defensive game isn't there. The guy is out to lunch sometimes.
 
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That 2nd to last shift by Podkolzin was his best. He really dominated in the ozone, stealing the puck 3 times, then, then following up with crisp passes 3 times.

Weird comment by Corey Hirsch saying that he can't see Podkolzin playing the 3rd line, and his defensive game isn't there. The guy is out to lunch sometimes.

He has no clue, i swear on the first pre-season game he mentioned with our center issues were going to need beagle, seemingly unaware he no longer plays for us.

He also wanted JT miller off the team immediately last season.
 
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There going to be a scrappy team competing for a playoff spot imo.

They have top-5 goaltending in the league, as we got a taste of tonight. That will keep them in the playoff chase by itself, but they also have 4 balanced lines and 3 balanced defense pairings.
 

wonton15

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Only two preseason games left, sure would be nice to get a glimpse at our actual NHL roster rather than keep playing guys who aren’t going to make the club
No more of this Focht, Dries, etc. we need to play our full team. I fully expect Green to continue mixing it all up though because Green.
 
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He has no clue, i swear on the first pre-season game he mentioned with our center issues were going to need beagle, seemingly unaware he no longer plays for us.

He also wanted JT miller off the team immediately last season.
fwiw hirsch is a company man

there were some interesting changes in tone about miller from the company men last season where they strongly despised his actions but then also had tone shifts to be in total defense of his actions

but yeah the only good time hirsch opens his mouth is for mental health advocacy

can't think of someone i'd like to hear speak less than him for anything else
 

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There is a very good chance players are going to just fall down if they feel a cross check in the back even if it’s soft.

A good example was the one we took earlier, Forgot who it was but he barely touched him and the guy went down, i think rathbone?

Alex Burrows says "hi"...
 

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Demko gave up a lot of uncontrolled rebounds tonight, something he will have to solve if we are to do anything at all this year....
 

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He has no clue, i swear on the first pre-season game he mentioned with our center issues were going to need beagle, seemingly unaware he no longer plays for us.

He also wanted JT miller off the team immediately last season.
He said Dowling is a solid 3rd line NHL center
 

Nucker101

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From what I've seen, they're getting a bit overrated..First game we had 3 NHL players in the game, and in this one, most of the core players didn't play.

Again, Seattle looks like an undersized team imo.
I feel like scoring first will be massive against them, they seem to have the personnel to defend Leafs but don’t have the horses up front to chase teams
 

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I feel like scoring first will be massive against them, they seem to have the personnel to defend Leafs but don’t have the horses up front to chase teams
We didnt dress most of our core players..outshot them by double...Dominating a bunch of fringe players with your main squad (which they've done both games) isn't revealing a whole lot...Their goalie was outstanding....They're not Vegas.

Its the pre season..I remember we won almost all of our pre season games one season, when Willie D was coaching...and remember losing most of them and winning a Presidents Trophy years earlier..
 

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Feel sorry for the patrons who payed full freight to watch this game at the rink. I realize it's only a pre-season game, but you'd think the Canucks would owe their home fans a better lineup and a better performance than that.

Really any exhibition game is about individual performances. I think Podkolzin has played his way on to the team.....probably the best forward tonight, followed closely by Hoglander. Podz was also more than passable on the defensive side of the puck, which is why he can probably stick because they can start him out on the third and fourth lines.

I get the fact that Dickinson is big and might be a solid defensive forward....but my Lord, offensively he might have less skills than Jay Beagle. You can see why he hasn't once cracked the 10-goal plateau in his NHL career.

Find it interesting that Rathbone keeps getting paired with the pylon of the month. Schenn is the latest....but last game it was Bowey. They seem to be trying him with anybody to see if can carry a pairing on his own.

The Canucks needs to dispatch half tonight's lineup to Abbotsford and get down to workable numbers. They need a far better performance in the last two exhibition games against the Oilers.
 
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Feel sorry for the patrons who payed full freight to watch this game at the rink. I realize it's only a pre-season game, but you'd think the Canucks would owe their home fans a better lineup and a better performance than that.

Really any exhibition game is about individual performances. I think Podkolzin has played his way on to the team.....probably the best forward tonight, followed closely by Hoglander. Podz was also more than passable on the defensive side of the puck, which is why he can probably stick because they can start him out on the third and fourth lines.

I get the fact that Dickinson is big and might be a solid defensive forward....but my Lord, offensively he might have less skills than Jay Beagle. You can see why he hasn't once cracked the 10-goal plateau in his NHL career.

Find it interesting that Rathbone keeps getting paired with the pylon of the month. Schenn is the latest....but last game it was Bowey. They seem to be trying him with anybody to see if can carry a pairing on his own.

The Canucks needs to dispatch half tonight's lineup to Abbotsford and get down to workable numbers. They need a far better performance in the last two exhibition games against the Oilers.
Will be a real test for OEL facing some of those Oilers star forwards.
 

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We didnt dress most of our core players..outshot them by double...Dominating a bunch of fringe players with your main squad (which they've done both games) isn't revealing a whole lot...Their goalie was outstanding....They're not Vegas.

Its the pre season..I remember we won almost all of our pre season games one season, when Willie D was coaching...and remember losing most of them and winning a Presidents Trophy years earlier..
I agree about pre-season being overblown but I do believe Seattle will be a solid defensive team
 

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Some things never change. Still the worst officiated sport and still refs just wanta be part of the show. Some dreadful and inconsistent calls all round. Level of incompetence of NHL refs is unbelieveable. Lots of youth games get excellent refereeing and these bozos can't do a job at the professional level.

On the game biggest difference was goal tending. Demko was shaky and let out way too many rebounds while Grubauer was very good. Plays like this and the Kracken are in every game.

Biggest positive was Podkolzin. Skating was much smoother and quicker. Made a number of good plays and and with better linemates looked like he could have accomplished something. That should have been acknowledged by between period commentator (banal and boring as usual - like say something else besides what everyone knows). Off tonight, there is a real chance Podkolzin can help one of the top 3 lines as the season goes on.

Biggest negative was Myers who was again a nightmare. (kids should wear Myers mask on Halloween) . He has been just horrible all pre-season and seems set on becoming the new version of Eriksson. Off the game tonight, you have to think best place for him is in the press box. So much wrong here you don't know where to start. Would prefer Gudbranson.

On the defense.

Rathbone had some good stretches of play but took a pounding deep in his end and will need to get stronger around his net. Strength lies in open ice play and he can be excellent here. Weakness is when the play slows along the boards. However, given the holes on the defense is clearly on the team.

Joulevi - Not all bad but at the moment he is going to cough up gilt-edged opportunities every game he plays. Got the puck moving well at times but still can't take players around the net. In spite of his problems, Joulevi is showing some improvement. Not enough to be, legitimately, on an NHL roster but enough to have some hope that after a year in Abby he can provide some bottom pairing relief work. Maybe wishful thinking but at least he now seems to be trying and getting his nose dirty.

OEL - far and away the best d-man. Tragedy is he had to play with the train wreck Myers in this game.

Burroughs - lack of competition might well allow him to be on the team. Not really an NHL player but was decent in this game.

Schenn - plods along and tries to use positioning to keep out of trouble. Very limited and absolutely fringe NHLer. Looks like he might have lost a step since his last stay in Vancouver and that's a step he couldn't lose.

Forwards

Past time to send some of these not ready and never will be players packing. Dries and Focht should have already been down the road. Also becoming apparent that all of Highmore, Dowling, Guiseepe, Lockwood, McEwen have big holes in their games. Given the injuries some of these guys will stick around (most like Highmore, McEwen and Dowling). But you are not winning with minor league players like these.

Dickinson started well and had probably his best game. His skating and coverage were better and, with better linemates, looked like he could provide some offense. Could see glimpses in this game of how he could help the team.
 
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