scoutman1's early look at 2017 NHL draft

[scoutman1]

As of 4-25-2016:

1. Nolan Patrick—F—Brandon 6’03/192 72 41 61 102
2. Timothy Liljegren—D—Rogle SHL 6’00/190 19 01 04 05
3. Maxime Comtois—F—Victoriaville 6’01/189 41 25 24 49
4. Urho Vaakanainen—D—Blues Liiga 6’01/187 24 01 05 06
5. Juuso Välimäki—D—Tri City 6’02/200 56 07 25 32
6. Gabe Vilardi—F—Windsor 6’02/193 62 17 21 38
7. Eeli Tolvanen—F—F—Sioux City USHL 5’10/172 30 14 17 31
8. Kailer Yamamoto—F—Spokan 5’09/160 57 19 52 71
9. Cal Foote—D—Kelowna 6’04/200 71 08 28 36
10. Scott Reedy—F—USA NTDP 17 6’00/190 36 14 26 40
11. Antoine Morand—F—Bathurst 5’09/157 32 10 24 34
12. Marcus Davidsson—F—Djurgardens J20 6’00/183 45 17 23 40
13. David Farrance—D—USA NTDP 17 5’11/170 34 04 12 16
14. Owen Tippett—F—Mississauga 5’11/160 48 15 05 20
15. Michael Pastujov—F—USA NTDP 17 0’00/000 14 07 02 09
16. Jordy Bellerive—F—Lethbridge 5’10/185 65 11 25 36
17. Matthew Strome—F—Hamilton 6’03/187 61 16 22 38
18. Stelio Mattheos—F—Brandon 6’01/174 50 13 17 30
19. Nikita Popugaev—F—Moose Jaw 6’04/204 70 16 31 47
20. Nico Hischier—F—Bern U20 5’11/163 18 11 17 28
21. Ostap Safin—F—HC Sparta Praha U18 6’04/200 38 28 19 47
22. Ian Scott—G—Prince Albert 6’02/180 13 09 3.24 .892
23. Grant Mismash—F—USA NTDP 17 6’00/172 36 15 15 30
24. Markus Phillips—D—Owen Sound 5’11/203 63 03 09 12
25. Stuart Skinner—G—Lethbridge 6’04/196 27 10 2.73 .920
26. Jason Robertson—F—Kingston 6’02/182 54 18 14 32
27. Shane Bowers—F—Waterloo USHL 6’01/170 28 06 08 14
28. Michael Rasmussen—F—Tri City 6’05/200 63 18 25 43
29. Nicolas Hague—D—Mississauga 6’05/207 66 14 10 24
30. Austen Keating—F—Ottawa 67’s 5’10/145 50 13 19 32
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31. Joel Teasdale—F—Blainville 5’11/197 33 08 10 18
32. Jaret Anderson-Dolan—F—Spokan 5’10/171 65 14 12 26
33. Jocktan Chainey—D—Halifax 6’00/185 27 02 08 10
34. Alexander Chmelevski—F—Sarnia 5’11/172 34 11 08 19
35. Dmitri Samorukov—D—CSKA 6’00/160 00 00 00 00
36. Kristian Vesalainen—F—Frolunda SHL 6’02/183 19 01 01 02
37. Kole Lind—F—Kelowna 6’05/172 70 14 27 41
38. Brannon McManus—F—Omaha Lancers 5’09/172 37 12 13 25
39. Rickard Hugg—F—Leksands J20 0’00/000 31 08 22 30
40. Evan Barrat—F—NTDP U17 5’11/170 36 12 19 31
41. Lias Andersson—F—HV71 J20 5’11/192 28 17 29 46
42. Cale Fleury—D—Kootaney 6’00/173 61 08 17 25
43. Dereck Baribeau—G—Val-d’Or 6’05/182 08 02 3.62 .876
44. Klim Kostin—F—Dynamo U17 5’11/190 09 09 04 13
45. Michael Dipietro—G—Windsor 6’00/191 16 08 2.45 .912
46. Vanya Lodnia—F—Erie 5’09/171 62 16 23 39
47. Casey Mittelstadt—F—Eden Prairie High 5’11/190 15 16 21 37
48. Elias Pettersson—F—Timra J20 5’09/130 00 00 00 00
49. Josh Maniscalco—D—USA NTDP 17 6’00/189 35 04 09 13
50. Kirill Slepets—F—Rusia MHL 0’00/000 18 09 03 12
51. Vanya Lodnia—F—Erie 5’09/160 62 16 23 39
52. Nolan Kneen—D—Kamloops 6’00/170 52 01 06 07
53. Kyle Olson—F—Tri City 5’10/180 19 03 07 10
54. Adam Tilander—D—Skelleftea J20 6’00/198 30 01 07 08
55. Matthew Wedman—F—Seattle 6’01/189 70 06 08 14
56. Nick Suzuki—F—Owen Sound 5’10/183 63 20 18 38
57. Patrik Hrehorcak—F—HC Trinec 5’10/150 07 10 05 15
58. Luke Martin—D—NTDP U18 0’00/000 37 03 09 12
59. Adam Ruzicka—F—HC Pardubice 6’00/209 00 00 00 00
60. Jake Christiansen—D—Everett 6’00/185 06 00 01 01

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As of 10-17-2013:

It is still early in the year and i have not seen some guys yet and there might be some late bdays of 98s that I do not know they are late bdays yet because sometimes scouting sheets just tell me 1998 born so here is my early look at my top 30 players i have seen so far for the 2017 NHL draft.

1. Patrick Khordorenko—F—Honey Baked 5’11/168 04 02 07 09
2. Mathieu Charlebois—D—Conquerants 6’02/180 05 02 03 05
3. Adam Thilander—F—Skelleftea J18 5’11/198 07 04 06 10
4. Jordy Bellerive—F—NSWC 5’09/165 00 00 00 00
5. Nolan Patrick—F—Winnipeg Thrashers 6’03/182 03 02 02 04
6. Shane Bowers—F—Bubba Rays 5’08/140 07 11 08 19
7. Adam Dawe—F—Gander Flyers 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
8. Ryan Lindgren—D—Shattuck 5’11/000 07 00 01 01
9. Stelio Mattheos—F—Winnipeg Monarchs 6’01/174 02 01 02 03
10. Brady Gilmour—F—Quinte Mills 5’09/150 00 00 00 00
11. Drake Lafontaine—F—Don Mills 6’00/180 00 00 00 00
12. Zane Franklin—F—Lloydminster 5’09/175 08 17 16 33
13. Nolan Kneen—D—NSWC 6’00/169 00 00 00 00
14. Pavel Koltygin—F—Dynamo 99 6’01/170 05 06 09 15
15. Derek Gentile—F—Breton Cougars 5’06/140 07 08 06 14
16. Michael Cusack—F—Spruce Grove PAC 5’08/140 08 12 09 21
17. Urho Vaakanainen—D—Jokipojat 5’11/159 13 03 09 12
18. Denis Morozov—F—Lokomotiv 99 5’04/100 05 05 09 14
19. Michael Pastujov—F—Honey Baked 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
20. Arnaud Durandeau—F—Lake Shore 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
21. Brendan Bonello—G—Toronto Titans 0’00/000 00 00 0.00 .000
22. Josh Paterson—F—SSAC 5’10/150 06 05 10 15
23. Stuart Skinner—G—SSAC Athletics 6’03/189
24. David Farrance—D—Syracuse Nationals 5’11/170 00 00 00 00
25. Sean Dhooghe—F—Chicago Mission 5’03/120 02 00 01 01
26. Maxim Shestemin—F_-Avenguard 99 0’00/000 06 05 12 17
27. Kyle Olson—F—Calgary Bisons 5’06/135 07 11 05 16
28. Patrik Hrehorcak—F—HK SKP Pop U18 0’00/000 02 04 00 04
29. Brannon McManus—F—Shattuck Bantam 5’09/154 11 17 08 25
30. Joni Ikonen—F—Blues MK 0’00/000 13 02 07 09

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[UsernameWasTaken]

do you know how good a player Matthew Strome is? I think he's with the Marlies.

 

[Sloth Slothersons*]

Wow i can't wait!

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

Is Drake the son/nephew of Pat Lafontaine?

 

[scoutman1]

do you know how good a player Matthew Strome is? I think he's with the Marlies.

when i was in Ontario i nevver saw the marlies yet so i never saw strome yet. Some players who play on the Marlies i saw in the summer in tournaments but not for the marlies yet.

 

[JFA87-66-99]

It is still early in the year and i have not seen some guys yet and there might be some late bdays of 98s that I do not know they are late bdays yet because sometimes scouting sheets just tell me 1998 born so here is my early look at my top 30 players i have seen so far for the 2017 NHL draft.

1. Patrick Khordorenko—F—Honey Baked 5’11/168 04 02 07 09
2. Mathieu Charlebois—D—Conquerants 6’02/180 05 02 03 05
3. Adam Thilander—F—Skelleftea J18 5’11/198 07 04 06 10
4. Jordy Bellerive—F—NSWC 5’09/165 00 00 00 00
5. Nolan Patrick—F—Winnipeg Thrashers 6’03/182 03 02 02 04
6. Shane Bowers—F—Bubba Rays 5’08/140 07 11 08 19
7. Adam Dawe—F—Gander Flyers 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
8. Ryan Lindgren—D—Shattuck 5’11/000 07 00 01 01
9. Stelio Mattheos—F—Winnipeg Monarchs 6’01/174 02 01 02 03
10. Brady Gilmour—F—Quinte Mills 5’09/150 00 00 00 00
11. Drake Lafontaine—F—Don Mills 6’00/180 00 00 00 00
12. Zane Franklin—F—Lloydminster 5’09/175 08 17 16 33
13. Nolan Kneen—D—NSWC 6’00/169 00 00 00 00
14. Pavel Koltygin—F—Dynamo 99 6’01/170 05 06 09 15
15. Derek Gentile—F—Breton Cougars 5’06/140 07 08 06 14
16. Michael Cusack—F—Spruce Grove PAC 5’08/140 08 12 09 21
17. Urho Vaakanainen—D—Jokipojat 5’11/159 13 03 09 12
18. Denis Morozov—F—Lokomotiv 99 5’04/100 05 05 09 14
19. Michael Pastujov—F—Honey Baked 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
20. Arnaud Durandeau—F—Lake Shore 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
21. Brendan Bonello—G—Toronto Titans 0’00/000 00 00 0.00 .000
22. Josh Paterson—F—SSAC 5’10/150 06 05 10 15
23. Stuart Skinner—G—SSAC Athletics 6’03/189
24. David Farrance—D—Syracuse Nationals 5’11/170 00 00 00 00
25. Sean Dhooghe—F—Chicago Mission 5’03/120 02 00 01 01
26. Maxim Shestemin—F_-Avenguard 99 0’00/000 06 05 12 17
27. Kyle Olson—F—Calgary Bisons 5’06/135 07 11 05 16
28. Patrik Hrehorcak—F—HK SKP Pop U18 0’00/000 02 04 00 04
29. Brannon McManus—F—Shattuck Bantam 5’09/154 11 17 08 25
30. Joni Ikonen—F—Blues MK 0’00/000 13 02 07 09

Thanks scoutman for your info. Isn't Ryan Lindgren 2016 draft eligible?

 

[hab 4ever]

Thanks Scoutman!

A few questions:

1- Whatever happened to Blake Jamieson? Stagnation?
2- What would you say is Charlebois' biggest weakness right now?
3- Have you seen Joël Teasdale play? If so, how far is he from your top-30?

 

[scoutman1]

Thanks scoutman for your info. Isn't Ryan Lindgren 2016 draft eligible?

no he is a late 98 bday....so he is 2017 ranked

 

[scoutman1]

Thanks Scoutman!

A few questions:

1- Whatever happened to Blake Jamieson? Stagnation?
2- What would you say is Charlebois' biggest weakness right now?
3- Have you seen Joël Teasdale play? If so, how far is he from your top-30?

Blake Jamieson when i saw him at the prep school this year did not look as dominant as he did last year...

Charlebois is pretty complete for his age, i have to say for a kid who is complete at that age the weaknesses are pretty much get ironed out with time....he is strong for his age, super smart, great skater, excellent puck skills, pin point passing, strong, plays well in own end, plays well on offense, really hard to point ouot a weakness for his age.

yes I have seen Joel Teasdale play he is a very good player, very good shooter, smart player. He is on the fence for me to rank high at the moment, he is one i want to see in midget before i rank him super high.

 

[JFA87-66-99]

Thanks Scoutman!

A few questions:

1- Whatever happened to Blake Jamieson? Stagnation?
2- What would you say is Charlebois' biggest weakness right now?
3- Have you seen Joël Teasdale play? If so, how far is he from your top-30?

Hey scoutman I wanted to add onto these question. How do Mathieu Charlebois and Adam Thilander stack up against the top 2 defensemen from 2016 in Sean Day and Chad Krys or maybe Jakob Chychrun . I'd like too see how you would rank Day, Krys, Chychrun, Charlebois and Thilander in terms of potential? Also were do you have Jake Harrison ranked. I thought he was supposed to be Better than Nolan Kneed. Also isn't Ryan Lindgren 2016 eligible i thought his birthday was February 1998 and could you give a brief scouting report on Patrick Khoderenko and is there a current nhler he might compare to? Is Drake Lafontaine good enough to get EPS into the ohl next seasonAnd lastly do u maybe have an updat oed. 2016 ranking? Thanks scoutman your the best.

 

[scoutman1]

Hey scoutman I wanted to add onto these question. How do Mathieu Charlebois and Adam Thilander stack up against the top 2 defensemen from 2016 in Sean Day and Chad Krys or maybe Jakob Chychrun . I'd like too see how you would rank Day, Krys, Chychrun, Charlebois and Thilander in terms of potential? Also were do you have Jake Harrison ranked. I thought he was supposed to be Better than Nolan Kneed. Also isn't Ryan Lindgren 2016 eligible i thought his birthday was February 1998 and could you give a brief scouting report on Patrick Khoderenko and is there a current nhler he might compare to? And lastly do u maybe have an updated 2016 ranking? Thanks scoutman your the best.

Thilander now has been changed to forward.....Chad Krys is pretty awsome with the puck, but Charlebois is better in his own end, bigger, smarter.........Day and Charlebois well day is a better skater but no where close to how smart Charlebois is and Charlebois overall game dewarfs Day...but Day is better in the offensive end.......

 

[JJTT]

no he is a late 98 bday....so he is 2017 ranked

He is listed born in February 11th, 1998 everywhere so doesn't that make him 2016?

 

[scoutman1]

He is listed born in February 2nd, 1998 everywhere so doesn't that make him 2016?

on my scouting sheets given to us in Shattuck they must have his birthday backwards....they have it listed as November 2, 1998....I just checked rinknet and shattuck site and both have it Feb11th, 98 so I was always going by the scouting sheets and guess for the last 2 years shattuck never fixed the mistake on their scouting sheets with him lol...oh well it happens. Your right 2016.

 

[chaosrevolver]

Nice list. What draft is that Mathias Emilio Pettersen supposed to be eligible for again?

 

[scoutman1]

do you know how good a player Matthew Strome is? I think he's with the Marlies.

I asked our Ontario scout what he thought of Matthew and I will be seeing him play in about a month....and he thinks he is the best 99 in Ontario...so i will be putting another list out in november and things will be changing im sure.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Derek Gentile 15th? You're cracked long ways away though, we'll see.

Also don't know where you got this:

Thilander now has been changed to forward.....Chad Krys is pretty awsome with the puck, but Charlebois is better in his own end, bigger, smarter.........Day and Charlebois well day is a better skater but no where close to how smart Charlebois is and Charlebois overall game dewarfs Day...but Day is better in the offensive end.......

http://www.skellefteaaik.se/andralag/J18/

There site still says D & I heard tons about him from TV-Pucken where he was playing defense

 

[scoutman1]

Derek Gentile 15th? You're cracked long ways away though, we'll see.

Also don't know where you got this:


http://www.skellefteaaik.se/andralag/J18/

There site still says D & I heard tons about him from TV-Pucken where he was playing defense

our european scout has been telling me they are playing him on forward position and he is doing well...he is probably still listed as a on their site but they could be trying him out and if it works he could stay, i trust our euro scout (really european helper) he he is also an NHL scout too.

Gentile 15th I see a lot of skill in him, I think he has a chance to challenge for a top 15 spot when all is said and done.

 

[alko]

Nice list. What draft is that Mathias Emilio Pettersen supposed to be eligible for again?

Quick search via Google says, that his year is 2018.

Btw, Patrik Hrehorcak is now in HC Ocelari Trinec to find. He plays U 16 league - 8 games = 5 + 8

And here is a good article about him and little wonder from Kysucke Nove Mesto, Milos Roman (2018 draft)

 

[NEhockeycoach]

Thanks for the post Scoutman. Still getting to know that age group down here in New England. Finally feel that I have a grasp on the 98's.

Let me throw out a few names that I've seen that might be worth keeping an eye on. In no particular order.

Cayden Primeau -- Goalie, Team Comcast. 6'1 155 (Son of Keith)
Matt Allen -- Forward, Selects Academy. unknown H/W (~5'10 150)
Max Gildon -- Defense, Dallas Stars. 6-2 155
Callan Foote -- Defense, Colorado Thunderbirds. 5'11 160

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

I asked our Ontario scout what he thought of Matthew and I will be seeing him play in about a month....and he thinks he is the best 99 in Ontario...so i will be putting another list out in november and things will be changing im sure.

That doesn't surprise me. I saw him a while back and was extremely impressed.

This is the group that's eligible for that summer mentorship camp (at least the Canadians), right?

 

[PorkChopSandwiches]

That doesn't surprise me. I saw him a while back and was extremely impressed.

This is the group that's eligible for that summer mentorship camp (at least the Canadians), right?

You are correct, as long as they are 99 born. Late 98 (Sept 16th -> ) were eligible last year for All-Canadians but are 2017 NHL Draft eligible.

 

[romelson]

I dont know where the info comes that Thilander plays forward. He's always been as D in the lineups for all games this season.

Btw, it looks like he's growing a stache, and he just turned 15. Not a very impressive one, but still.
http://www.skellefteaaik.se/andralag/J18/404
Maybe stat wizards know if there's some kind of record for "Youngest player to grow facial hair".

 

[Sticks and Pucks]

Is Patrick Khodorenko headed towards college? I know he was drafted in the second round of this past bantam draft yet is rated first on your list. How does he compare to Tyler Benson? (both 98s)

 

[3 Minute Minor]

I dont know where the info comes that Thilander plays forward. He's always been as D in the lineups for all games this season.

Btw, it looks like he's growing a stache, and he just turned 15. Not a very impressive one, but still.
http://www.skellefteaaik.se/andralag/J18/404
Maybe stat wizards know if there's some kind of record for "Youngest player to grow facial hair".

That's nothing lol I could have beat that at 15... A guy I played with in Atom had a mustache but the furthest he got was Jr. B

 

[JFA87-66-99]

Do you think any of these players will get exceptional player status next season. Just going off your list I'd have to say that Brady Gilmour, Drake LaFontaine, or maybe even Matthew Strome would have the best chance. What do you guys think?