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Sam isn't a 70 point center, the points hes putting up in his first two seasons makes him a very competent star 3rd line center and if he puts up more than that, huge bonus.
Speculation: Sam or Kane?
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wunderpanda
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They would, except Sam was playing wing with Kane, Jack, Okposo & ROR. 3C won't have that kind of help, especially with Kane imaginary gone and Jack having priority.
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If Sam is 3C and Kane is gone, Ennis & Zemgus could be in the top 6. How'd Sam do with Moulson & Foligno?
Der Jaeger
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F3 doesn't change as a position in a system from line-to-line. A 3C isn't a automatically a grinding, shutdown center anywhere but NHL 17 and the pre-lockout NHL. There are plenty of examples of 3Cs all across the league who don't play a shutdown role.
If you're playing F3 (center), you're typically the guy that's making the offensive zone entry decision. That's ideal for Reinhart and it doesn't take another player with him to drive the play. Once in the zone, the wingers are deep and the F3 is playing high or as the third man in. You don't need much to make that work. Getzlaf is playing in this exact situation with Ritchie and Eaves.
Foligno - Reinhart - Fasching was a solid line during the small amount of time it was together late in the season for the reasons above.
They played like 3 or 4 shifts together, scored a goal, and never played together again... bylsma was simply anti good lines.
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Reinhart played the best hockey of his young career in his last 12 starts at center.
Put him with speed on a 3rd line and watch him dominate against easier matchups.
Put him with speed on a 3rd line and watch him dominate against easier matchups.
Why are people worried about Sam's wingers? Put 2 people who play hockey there, and he'll make it a good line.
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Yep. Ideally wingers with speed, with one who has good one-on-one talent, which is the same set-up we saw at the WJC.
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so 2 years NHL experience is 4 years? Realistically he's going on his 3rd NHL season and to say he has potential to be a 55-60 points center is completely reasonable. To say he has room to grow? is another completely acceptable and reasonable/rational statement but in your world apparently players reach their peak at 21.
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He sure looked like he could handle playing center, you know, when he played center. To go along with the fact that he played center his entire life and all of his strengths translate more effectively playing center. Maybe we're basing our opinions on that rather than dreams?
Der Jaeger
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Or the games he played at center last season, where he played well, even being praised for playing well against Crosby. Unless you think playing well against the best player in the world is pixie dust and bedtime wishes.
The anti-Reinhart narrative on this board cannot be contained by time.
Aladyyn
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I guess 2 years of the team being a tirefire when he's off the ice and pretty good when he's on is nothing.
Wouldn't it be funny if it was really Samson behind the scenes trying to get Bkysma fired and Eichel was just doing the dirty Work?
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I cannot conceive of a world in which Evander Kane would be more valuable than Sam Reinhart. What dimension are you people from? And, can you take the next Stargate back there? Thanks.
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So, Stokes, and 5 people who are just ****ing with consensus. That seems like the most probable cause.
I clicked Kane, because I'd MUCH rather deal Samson for a stud D and retain Kane, than deal Kane for a D. As long as Kane is willing to re-sign, that is. The poll says that we can only pay one, after all....
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I see, so you are factoring in the quality of the potential return from Sam in the poll.
You are reading the poll as:
Trade Reinhart for X and extend Kane
vs
Trade Kane for Y and extend Rhino.
where your primary calculation seems to be X > Y.
I see your logic, and it makes some sense, but I don't think that was the poll question exactly.
Even if it were, I'd prefer to retain Sam.
