News Article: Sam Gagner, back

[Senor Catface]

76 posts definitely tells me something

Yeah, these alt accounts are annoying.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I am serious. He's been in the league for 16 seasons and played 11 playoff games. If he's on your roster, your team is probably not good enough.

Jeff Skinner has played 950 games and hasn’t played a single playoff game. I guess he must suck.

 

[tiger_80]

Hundreds of players are trying to crack a roster year in and year out with many new faces vying every year but somehow a smaller slower player plays over 1000 games

Most of those games were on the shitty Oilers and almost equally shitty Arizona, Vancouver, and Detroit. He would not play nearly as many games if he was not the 6th overall pick high drafted by the OIlers.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Based on nothing, I think Gagner gets a point in game one (which I assume is tonight)

 

[fuswald]

Gagner never plays on playoff teams. This is a throw-the-towel move. At least, they have their first round pick this year. I wonder if they could move some players at the trade deadline. Kane, Ceci, Kulak, maybe Foegele if he plays well. Maybe Draisaitl in the off-season. Time to accumulate some assets and retool.

Retool. I always thought this is a weird expression. Who wants more tools we have enough already.

 

[MessierII]

I'll certainly never forget the magical Chicago game.

I went to the next game vs Detroit and people probably forget this but he had 3 points in the first period. I kept joking in the first intermission that he was on pace for 9 to the top the other night. He didn’t get any more points but it’s pretty wild he actually had 11 points in 4 periods.

 

[Juxta Position]

I went to the next game vs Detroit and people probably forget this but he had 3 points in the first period. I kept joking in the first intermission that he was on pace for 9 to the top the other night. He didn’t get any more points but it’s pretty wild he actually had 11 points in 4 periods.

technically 3 periods because he didn't have a point in the first period of the chicago game.

so using main board logic he broke Sittlers record for most points in 3 consecutive periods. (that was a shot at Leafs fans that say Matthews scored 50 goals in 50 games)

 

[Drivesaitl]

I am serious. He's been in the league for 16 seasons and played 11 playoff games. If he's on your roster, your team is probably not good enough.

Pretty flawed logic. Arizona, Oilers, Columbus Vancouver etc were pretty bad teams. Theres been around 4 seasons when Gagner was among the best players on his team. But being anything wouldn't will those clubs into playoffs. Still, Gagner in rookie season was largely the only reason the OIlers were even hanging around for a potential spot.

But yeah I guess Marcel Dionne was horrible at hockey because his team seldom made the playoffs.

I guess Jeff Skinner is just a horrible player. Debrincat too, just horrible player using your logic.

Jeff Skinner has played 950 games and hasn’t played a single playoff game. I guess he must suck.

Whoops, didn't see your post. Yep ditto.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I went to the next game vs Detroit and people probably forget this but he had 3 points in the first period. I kept joking in the first intermission that he was on pace for 9 to the top the other night. He didn’t get any more points but it’s pretty wild he actually had 11 points in 4 periods.

The one season Gagner played for Tortorella I took bets here that Gagner on that club would have more pts that season than RNH would get here. I took those bets and won. Nobody could believe it. hehe

Gagner and Torts is what won the bet for me.

Torts was smart enough to believe Gagner could be used offensively and given Ozone shifts and PP and that he had talent to create. He got 50pts that year despite moderate toi. he was a specialist there. Gagners best season since rookie season, and Torts a quality coach that gets the best out of players and uses them most effectively got it out of him.

 

[MessierII]

The one season Gagner played for Tortorella I took bets here that Gagner on that club would have more pts that season than RNH would get here. I took those bets and won. Nobody could believe it. hehe

Gagner and Torts is what won the bet for me.

Torts was smart enough to believe Gagner could be used offensively and given Ozone shifts and PP and that he had talent to create. He got 50pts that year despite moderate toi. he was a specialist there. Gagners best season since rookie season, and Torts a quality coach that gets the best out of players and uses them most effectively got it out of him.

If I remember correct he used him as a 4th line winger but played him on their #1 PP unit. Seemed to work out well.

 

[tiger_80]

Pretty flawed logic. Arizona, Oilers, Columbus Vancouver etc were pretty bad teams. Theres been around 4 seasons when Gagner was among the best players on his team. But being anything wouldn't will those clubs into playoffs. Still, Gagner in rookie season was largely the only reason the OIlers were even hanging around for a potential spot.

But yeah I guess Marcel Dionne was horrible at hockey because his team seldom made the playoffs.

I guess Jeff Skinner is just a horrible player. Debrincat too, just horrible player using your logic.


Whoops, didn't see your post. Yep ditto.

His rookie season was probably the only season he lived up to his potential as a draft pick. Pretty much never came close to that, with the exception, perhaps, of one season in Columbus. Comparing him to Skinner, as many do, is simply misguided. Skinner has scored 80 points in the league.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

His rookie season was probably the only season he lived up to his potential as a draft pick. Pretty much never came close to that, with the exception, perhaps, of one season in Columbus. Comparing him to Skinner, as many do, is simply misguided. Skinner has scored 80 points in the league.

Yeah but according to your logic, little to no playoff games means the player is no good.

Which one is it?

 

[tiger_80]

Yeah but according to your logic, little to no playoff games means the player is no good.

Which one is it?

Both. Why did the OIlers dump Gagner to Detroit when they were finally good and making a push? For Athanasiou of all players.

 

[harpoon]

Both. Why did the OIlers dump Gagner to Detroit when they were finally good and making a push? For Athanasiou of all players.

1) Gagner was going to be UFA (coming off a three year deal that had seen him be somewhat overpaid) and Holland made no attempt to even discuss resigning the player because he has too much air in spaces where the brain is supposed to be.

2) AA was coming off a thirty goal season and had scored five goals in seven games just prior to the trad. Plus Holland has a big woody for all things Detroit and has too much air in spaces where the brain is supposed to be.

 

[joestevens29]

1) Gagner was going to be UFA (coming off a three year deal that had seen him be somewhat overpaid) and Holland made no attempt to even discuss resigning the player because he has too much air in spaces where the brain is supposed to be.

2) AA was coming off a thirty goal season and had scored five goals in seven games just prior to the trad. Plus Holland has a big woody for all things Detroit and has too much air in spaces where the brain is supposed to be.

3) Gagner was making a lot of coin at the time and to get AA we needed to add cap.

AA was the clearly better player on paper and a better fit given his speed and age.

 

[Fourier]

His rookie season was probably the only season he lived up to his potential as a draft pick. Pretty much never came close to that, with the exception, perhaps, of one season in Columbus. Comparing him to Skinner, as many do, is simply misguided. Skinner has scored 80 points in the league.

People tend to over estimate what a guy in the 6-10 slot will normally bring to the table. He was a #6 pick. I suspect people think that at that high much more is to be expected. But in fact for the 61 #6 picks in NHL draft history Gagner sits at 15th in terms of total points and 10th in games played. Interesting enough, the top two scores for 6th over all picks are defensemen, Coffey and Housley.

Sixth overall draft picks - Points leaders

Sixth overall draft picks - Points leaders

www.quanthockey.com

Now there are some younger guys who will probably pass him, but in the end he probably fulfilled a realistic expectation for a 6th pick.

 

[kevy9999]

Both. Why did the OIlers dump Gagner to Detroit when they were finally good and making a push? For Athanasiou of all players.

Give it up. You're embarrassing yourself

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Both. Why did the OIlers dump Gagner to Detroit when they were finally good and making a push? For Athanasiou of all players.

The revisionist history here is inane.

 

[Aerchon]

The revisionist history here is inane.

Just quoting you for no reason. Not even sure what you are referring to.

Lol. But.

Gagner was flushed from the Oilers because he was shit.

The only year Gagner did well was the one where he was used in manner no "good" hockey player ever would. 4th line minutes 5v5... PP specialist...

The Oilers used him in a top 6/top centre role where the vast majority of the time he was crushed... overwhelmed... dismantled regularly as such.

Not even his fault really. Against the opposition he was facing he had no chance in he'll.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Just quoting you for no reason. Not even sure what you are referring to.

Lol. But.

Gagner was flushed from the Oilers because he was shit.

The only year Gagner did well was the one where he was used in manner no "good" hockey player ever would. 4th line minutes 5v5... PP specialist...

The Oilers used him in a top 6/top centre role where the vast majority of the time he was crushed... overwhelmed... dismantled regularly as such.

Not even his fault really. Against the opposition he was facing he had no chance in he'll.

You were saying....

 

[Aerchon]

You were saying....

Lol. I watched that play and said f*** it, I'm posting this anyways.

Great moment. Very cool.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Did more in 10 minutes than Brown+Erne did their entire seasons combined.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Did more in 10 minutes than Brown+Erne did their entire seasons combined.

He's been great tonight. His absolutely lack of quit is great to watch

 

[bellagiobob]

Gags with two more goals on the season than the great Kostin.

 

[Field Marshal Phibun]

76 posts definitely tells me something

18 00 posts tells me something...
18 000 posts!
Posts are actually important to you.
Presumably you are an adult.