Salary Cap: Salary Cap Thread - Waiting for Day Two Edition

[Peat]

I did read your post Empo. I know you like to knee jerk. This team will be fine paying Kris Letang 7.25 and Evgeni Malkin 9 mil.

Playing devil's advocate - is fine contending?

 

[Gurglesons]

Playing devil's advocate - is fine contending?

Yes. If the market is 4.6 for an Oleksiak and 9.5 for a Seth Jones.

Even if Letang falls off defensively (which he has slightly) there is no evidence his offense is going.

Teams don't lose by paying their best players big money. And Malkin and Letang are still the 3rd and 4th best players on this team most days.

 

[JRS91]

Tom Wilson continues to live rent free in the head of GMs.

First Rutherford, now Drury. Hopefully Hextall doesn't fall victim to this.

 

[dogthateats]

 

[Peat]

Yes. If the market is 4.6 for an Oleksiak and 9.5 for a Seth Jones.

Even if Letang falls off defensively (which he has slightly) there is no evidence his offense is going.

Teams don't lose by paying their best players big money. And Malkin and Letang are still the 3rd and 4th best players on this team most days.

What if Oleksiak and Jones aren't the market, but overpaid outliers?

Also, who's the 2nd best player on the team?

 

[eXile3]

I mean we can go back and forth on this but hes a great young d-man just hitting his prime

He's a good transition defensemen in his prime but he's not good defensively and not productive enough to justify that contract. His proj.WAR over the term of the contract is -23.1. In my opinion. And also according to the numbers apparently.

 

[Gurglesons]

What if Oleksiak and Jones aren't the market, but overpaid outliers?

Also, who's the 2nd best player on the team?

Maybe they are.

Guentzel.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

 

[Clare2904]

Makar and Fox are losing their minds after Heisekanen's and Jones' deals.

All they talked about this morning on the local radio station was throwing an offer sheet at Makar, $13 million for 7 years.

 

[Gurglesons]

All they talked about this morning on the local radio station was throwing an offer sheet at Makar, $13 million for 7 years.

Yeah. He’s gotta get 11 if he wants it

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I'm kinda just hoping we can grab a couple picks in the 2nd, early-3rd round area.

No real interest in gunning for big names via trade or anything.

 

[dogthateats]

 

[DRAGO 18]

WTF are the hawks doing lol

Consuming large amounts of alcohol

 

[Empoleon8771]

That's steep but Columbus is also giving up Tampa's 1st this year.

But I think it's smart for Columbus to add Tampa's 1st to get an additional 1st in the future.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Wow, nice for Columbus.

 

[Gurglesons]

That's steep but Columbus is also giving up Tampa's 1st this year.

But I think it's smart for Columbus to add Tampa's 1st to get an additional 1st in the future.

Especially because Chicago is barely a playoff team. But Jones, Jones, Murphy is a pretty decent d core.

 

[Shrimper]

Today has been bat shit crazy

 

[3ladesof5teel]

He's a good transition defensemen in his prime but he's not good defensively and not productive enough to justify that contract. His proj.WAR over the term of the contract is -23.1. In my opinion. And also according to the numbers apparently.

26 is most likley just hitting his prime for a D and still opportunity to grow, We can go back and forth but he brings alot more than just transition defense.

Is it a large contract.......yes but he is one of the better solid young D's out there

 

[Empoleon8771]

Oh shit Rossi dropped some info that didn't get posted here:



Hextall is being super active it seems. Tomorrow seems like a good bet for a Pettersson or Zucker trade, if one happens.

 

[Peat]

Maybe they are.

Guentzel.

Not sure I'd agree with that take on Jake right now. Which I guess emphasizes the importance of Geno and Tanger as much as anything.

Have to say after a bit of thought, I'm inclined to agree. Say they take discounts of 2.5m each. That's roughly turning one ELC into Jason Zucker, or two into Brandon Tanev. That's pretty cool, but it's not the difference between contending and not contending. I guess turning Zucker into a Barkov or shit would, which you could do with the money, but that's pretty difficult to pull off.

@Empoleon8771 - I think that if you reckon discounts are the only way we stay contending with Letang and Malkin, then I think a more logical stance would be to suggest it's just probably not happening.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

At least I'm getting the chaos I wanted. Keep it going through the summer, GMs! Please and thank you!

 

[Turin]

Chicago dealt Boqvist, two firsts, including 9th overall, and a second…..

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Requesting a "Trade is 1 for 1" kind of dipshit deal next, if I can push my luck.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

*chef kiss*

 

[Gurglesons]

Man. These trade values are outrageous.

Even Bean for a 2nd is a lot.