Salary Cap: Salary Cap Summer | The Hunt for 3C | Updated cap info in Post #1

[Honour Over Glory]

I probably would too, but I doubt that gets it done.

I think 3.5m/yr for 3yrs could get it done.

 

[The Gobfather*]

How's it worked out for him with Parise so far?

Well uhhhhh he's home and they uhhh ya that's about it

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

I think 3.5m/yr for 3yrs could get it done.

I'd be more than happy to give him that.

 

[Ogrezilla]

our 3rd pairing is going to be very expensive if we go that route.

 

[Saints11]

I have a feeling that the turnover on the Pens isn't over. They have lost 6, maybe 7 (Cullen), already and I can see another 4 or 5 moving out. It would not surprise me if Maatta, Pouliot, Kuhnhackl, Hagelin (cap reasons), and Sheary, sign and trade, are not with the Pens next year.

 

[Riptide]

Guy is as smart as they come so i believe him. Wonder what his HF username is though.

Guy may be smart... but I disagree with his premise that Hunwick will lose his legs when he's 32, 33 or 34.

Hainsey in the top 4 over a season would be... interesting.

His effectiveness here was actually pretty impressive. Didn't look pretty, but he did more often then not accomplish the job.

Hunwick is 32 so I wouldn't expect much improvement. Maybe the system, partner, usage or whatever can flatter him.

I'd say a mix between system, coaching staff and the on ice support we can give him. For starters we won't be pairing him with a Polak caliber player. His worse case scenario is playing RD with Maatta or with Cole - both of whom are significantly better than Polak when it comes to moving the puck. Which means he won't be forced to be the primary PMD on his pairing. That alone should make life a lot easier for him.

 

[Penske]

I have a feeling that the turnover on the Pens isn't over. They have lost 6, maybe 7 (Cullen), already and I can see another 4 or 5 moving out. It would not surprise me if Maatta, Pouliot, Kuhnhackl, Hagelin (cap reasons), and Sheary, sign and trade, are not with the Pens next year.

There will be some movement next year for sure. The 18-19 season we have 5 forwards , 5 d men and a goalie signed with 21mil left (+ any increase).

That probably makes Maatta less likely to be traded given his contract but we start getting tighter next season cap wise but a good GM can make it work well. Luckily we have one. We wont end up like a Washington

 

[shureshot66]

Why's Russo so obsessed with Cullen going to Minnesota? He's normally a good reporter but this is getting weird.

Yeah it's getting a little old. And it doesn't seem to be based on anything more than the theory that his wife wants him in Minny. From any article I've read, the whole family is pretty appreciative of JR and how he's had Cullen's back through the years. Fletcher wasn't even interested in Cullen two years ago.

Seems like just clickbait stuff to me, and needing to come up with articles to write when your team just keeps finding ways to lose.

Even Yohe said the other day that he's been told that his wife wanted to go back to Minnesota last year, and it's the same issue this summer whether he retires or not.

Again, Russo has known Cullen for a long time and seems to have a good relationship with him. He's not just throwing **** at the wall here.

 

[deakka]

I hope the Kruger to Carolina rumors are true.
Could make Teravainen available to us. Or Staal.....

 

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

I love how the guys the Pens have acquired this offseason are all 30+ and a bunch of posters are projecting improvement from all of them. On average, pro athletes over 30 don't get better.

That said, Hunwick doesn't need to get better to justify this signing. He's a good third pairing guy making third pairing money.

 

[Riptide]

I think 3.5m/yr for 3yrs could get it done.

Yeah I'd probably give him that too - however that's probably about the most I'd do, as you're starting to reach the point where cost/return could be questioned.

 

[Riptide]

I hope the Kruger to Carolina rumors are true.
Could make Teravainen available to us. Or Staal.....

TT, or Ryan - I'd happy take either.

 

[Giskard]

I just noticed that Malkin is currently the oldest forward on the team
Only new comers Hunwick and Niemi are older on this team, even between the depth players.
Or Geno is getting older or this team is so ****ing young and our window will be open for years to come

 

[Peat]

He should absolutely be given PP time since he's one of the best. But 63% of his points were at ES last year. That's a higher % than Burns, Karlsson and Hedman.

Which one of Letang and Schultz will miss out?

Idk I thought he was our 3rd best dman in the playoffs behind Dumoulin and Schultz. He can skate, move the puck, be physical and kill penalties. What's not to like?



I'd easily give him 3x3. He's absolutely worth it.

I want him to do it against better opposition. He's done a great job as Schultz's babysitter while Schultz has been deployed against the weak to score lots of points but I'm not sure he's our guy to deploy against the opposition's best.

I was about to criticise his PK stats as well, then I realised he was with Letang a lot of the time this year and Letang is, by GA/60, actually our worst PKer of the last two years. I mean, I know he's getting the first unit, but even so. Might be an easy way to limit Letang's minutes right there.

I love how the guys the Pens have acquired this offseason are all 30+ and a bunch of posters are projecting improvement from all of them. On average, pro athletes over 30 don't get better.

That said, Hunwick doesn't need to get better to justify this signing. He's a good third pairing guy making third pairing money.

Put a guy in a better system for him and you can get improvements. I think that's where most of these improvements are meant to be coming from.

 

[henkenorrswede]

3rd line C again

Goodmorning
Ladies and gents
Well for me it is.....
Tradesugg.1
Hagelin to devils -Henrique to pens ?
Possible?
Suggestion number 2
Scott wilson+3round draftpick -18 for
Radek Faksa ,Dallas
Possible?
Or am i still dreaming?
Yeye : )

 

[The Gobfather*]

Dk has a new article out and in it he mentions ruhtford loving Jordan staal and such

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Not sure has JJokinen been in talks for Pittsburgh,
but Jussi would be perfect fit for Pens.

Last time JJ played for Penguins: 35 goals,46 assists in 112 games
with plus and minus +23

Jussi can play all 3 forward positions equally well.

 

[Ian Moran Icing]

Dk has a new article out and in it he mentions ruhtford loving Jordan staal and such

Definitely dropped some major hints in there. I still have no idea how we would get him back though.

Said Carolina has added a ton of salary this off season and they'd love to be around the cap floor cause Karmanos is the hockey version of Bob Nutting

 

[Peat]

Shouldn't Troy Josephs be on the roster on the first page?

 

[Giskard]

Shouldn't Troy Josephs be on the roster on the first page?

He is on an AHL contract.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

TT, or Ryan - I'd happy take either.

Teravainen is who I would hope for out of the two though, he's quick and smart, two things Sullivan likes.

 

[deakka]

At first i thought "nah, 6m is too much".

But Staal is good for 35-40 even stength points per year. And should get 45-50 point total, and 50 point players costs 5-6 million now...

Hes also a beast defensively, both at ES and on the PK.
Way better in the dot than what i remember.
54.37
56.38
57.78
59.09

Is his last 4 seasons :-O

 

[Roboturner913]

Said Carolina has added a ton of salary this off season and they'd love to be around the cap floor cause Karmanos is the hockey version of Bob Nutting

This is not true at all.

The cap floor is 54 million. Right now the Hurricanes are at $54,715,000 with 3 roster spots open. One of those spots is Haydn Fleury at 832K. Another will be Phil DiGiuseppe or a rookie forward at no more than 900K. If the 3rd spot goes to Kruger at 3.1 million and Vegas retains nothing, that comes out to 59,547,000 at most.

Last year they were at 55,070,000. So at most they've added a little less than $4.5 million salary. That's not much more, considering they've upgraded significantly at goalie, #5 defense, and 2 forward spots (again, assuming the Kruger part actually does happen).

Also, Karmanos gave RF the green-light to spend this offseason anyway. He's not nearly as cheap/bankrupt as people seem to think. Hell the Canes have never operated as a floor team until the start of the 2014-15 season when they decided to blow the team up and start from ground up. They haven't operated at the floor the past couple years because he's cheap, they've done it because it makes little sense to do anything else with a rebuild that extensive.

 

[Peat]

He is on an AHL contract.

Does that mean we no longer hold his rights as a prospect?

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Guentzel (735K) - Crosby (8.700M) - Sheary (3.00M)
Rust (640K) - Malkin (9.500M) - Kessel (6.800M)
Hagelin (4.00M) - Jokinen (2.500M) - Hornqvist (4.250M)
Wilson (625K) - Rowney (612.5K) - Reaves (1.125M)
Kuhnhackl (625K)

Dumoluin (4.00M) - Letang (7.250M)
Cole (2.100M) - Schultz (5.500M)
Maatta (4.083M) - Hunwick (2.250M)
Ruhwedel (650K)

Murray (3.750M)
Niemi (700K)

Cap Hit - 73.445M
Cap Space - 1.555M

I like this roster, I like that it has some cap flexibility and yes it is a hit at center depth and Rowney is being thrust into a sink or swim kind of position but with money left and we still have to get Sheary and Dumo on contract, signing Juice and rolling with a young guy at 4C maybe our best bet and if 4C needs to be improved then we can deal with it at deadline. Or drop Juice to L4 and trade for a 3C.