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Is there any chance Troy Josephs ever becomes anything? I think he's on an AHL contract now but I remember that I used to like him.
I dunno, for as much as I was never sold on Vesey being half as good as the runaway hype train painted him to be, I still think he has what it'd take to be a solid third liner if he learns to adapt better (impressed early on last year and faded absurdly quickly). I just don't see Butcher as having anything more than #6 potential in the NHL with his mobility and defensive concerns.
I want Butcher because he's a free prospect, but let's not pretend that winning the Hobey Baker is even slightly predictive of professional success. Vesey is what happens when people conflate an award given to players being good at a specific level to being predictive of potential. The kid's game has very real flaws that limit his NHL potential, to say nothing of the generally accepted reasoning for him not signing with Colorado being that the Avs didn't show any interest in signing their own draft pick until he had a monster senior season down the road. I'd put Butcher below the other 'free' prospects we've signed the past two off-seasons in terms of potential.
I've been around HFBoards for too many Peter Sejnas and Matt Gilroys to ever hype someone based off of that award again, long before even Vesey showed up
On the bright side if there was a place for Butcher to get the help necessary to improve, it'd be with us (read: Gonchar).
Is there any chance Troy Josephs ever becomes anything? I think he's on an AHL contract now but I remember that I used to like him.
How the hell are you equating Wilson being above Hagelin on the depth chart to waking up with a million dollars in your pillow case? What the hell? Wilson was above Hagelin for essentially the entire playoffs last year. Yeah, part of it was due to injury, but why is it such a stretch to say that Wilson could be above Hagelin on the depth chart?
Your posts have been off in the last couple days, you've been seemingly getting pretty aggressive about the littlest things on here over the last few days.
Apologies if I'm coming off aggressive. That's not my intention. I was attempting to be blunt yesterday, but maybe I could have worded it differently so as to not come off like a dick. The point of my hyperbolic comparison (obvious it was exaggeration), is that saying there's a chance something happens doesn't make it likely. It's highly improbable that Wilson is above Hagelin on a healthy depth chart. So improbable, that IMO, it's not worth mentioning.
It's a stretch to say Wilson can be above Hagelin because there's nothing to suggest it will happen other than Hagelin playing with 1.5 feet.
I thought Hagelin and Hornqvist with Malkin looked good together, but it wasn't explored for very long. I would just go check the stats myself, but all of the advanced hockey sites like that are down now
It was explored long enough for me
109 minutes together & 41.7 GF% (5-7 GF-GA). But 59.4 CF% so there's that.
It's quite interesting. In terms of goalscoring (GF%) only twice have Malkin and Hornqvist created dominant line: with Guentzel and Comeau on the other side. But there are many line combinations of them that are dominating CF but come as pretty mediocre on GF front.
It was explored long enough for me
109 minutes together & 41.7 GF% (5-7 GF-GA). But 59.4 CF% so there's that.
It's quite interesting. In terms of goalscoring (GF%) only twice have Malkin and Hornqvist created dominant line: with Guentzel and Comeau on the other side. But there are many line combinations of them that are dominating CF but come as pretty mediocre on GF front.
5-7 gf-ga seems like a ridiculously small sample size. Two shifts go differently and they are just as far ahead of 50% as they are currently below.
I wonder if sheary or sprong could be the scoring touch that pair needs on the other side. Though if sheary leaves sids line it's probably because horny took his spot. So sprong then.
In terms of GF%, in such a small number of minutes a couple of goals one way or the other could shift that quite a bit, so I'd think sample size there. Whereas a lot of shots were generated, and PH/Hags have good possession stats together without Geno too, generally.
So it has not been explored long enough for me
That's why corsi is so widely used. It's something that has high correlation to GF stat (on average, across all teams) and it has roughly 30 times bigger sample sizes.
Unfortunately 100+ minutes of 5v5 time is a large number of minutes for a line combination in a season (hint: injuries, line changes). It was 3rd most used Malkin line combination and 8th most used PIT line combination:
Sheary-Crosby-Rust (221)
Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel (209)
Kunitz-Malkin-Kessel (202)
Sheary-Crosby-Hornqvist (165)
Sheary-Crosby-Guentzel (163)
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel (156)
Kuhnhackl-Cullen-Fehr (132)
Hagelin-Malkin-Hornqvist (109)
Wilson-Cullen-Fehr (106)
with no other line combination over 75 5v5 minutes
Just curious...was Hags Geno Kessel better, GF/GA, than Kunitz Geno Kessel? If you know...
Can't even access it using Wayback Machine. Man this sucks.
Unfortunately 100+ minutes of 5v5 time is a large number of minutes for a line combination in a season (hint: injuries, line changes). It was 3rd most used Malkin line combination and 8th most used PIT line combination:
Sheary-Crosby-Rust (221)
Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel (209)
Kunitz-Malkin-Kessel (202)
Sheary-Crosby-Hornqvist (165)
Sheary-Crosby-Guentzel (163)
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel (156)
Kuhnhackl-Cullen-Fehr (132)
Hagelin-Malkin-Hornqvist (109)
Wilson-Cullen-Fehr (106)
with no other line combination over 75 5v5 minutes
Well, speaking relative to other combos, sure, but the underlying point stands. I think the Corsi is more indicative of the performance of that line than the GF%.
At one point I was pretty interested about it so you are lucky.
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel
- 156:34 TOI
- 47.9/38.4/13.7 (OZ/NZ/DZ)
- 12-2 GF-GA (85.7 GF%, 4.60 GF60)
- 53.2 CF%
- Hagelin 6 Pts (0+6), Malkin 9 Pts (4+5), Kessel 7 Pts (4+3)
- in terms of primary points: Hagelin 4, Malkin 8, Kessel 6
Kunitz-Malkin-Kessel
- 202:37 TOI
- 49.5/34.3/16.2 (OZ/NZ/DZ)
- 9-3 (75.0 GF%, 2.67 GF60)
- 48.0 CF%
- Kunitz 7 Pts (1+6), Malkin 8 Pts (7+1), Kessel 6 Pts (0+6)
- in terms of primary points: Kunitz 2, Malkin 8, Kessel 5
A reliable Wings reporter said that the RedWings will wait until training camp before making any moved. They are also more likely to waive someone rather than trade a guy like sheahen.
I dont think that guy is really reliable but man, if the bruins trade away ANOTHER star..
maybe not, but he is a former agent, so i'm sure he hears things around the league.
but it would be absolutely hilarious if they traded pastrnak. after trading hamilton. and seguin. and kessel.