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Brandinho

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Is Trevor Lewis much better than Sheahan?

He's stupidly fast and has a much higher compete level. In terms of production, there's probably not a substantive difference between them (although Lewis is comfortably on pace for a career high in points this year), but yeah, I think he's better. Is he what we need? It's hard to say, but he's worth exploring.
 
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He's stupidly fast and has a much higher compete level. In terms of production, there's probably not a substantive difference between them (although Lewis is comfortably on pace for a career high in points this year), but yeah, I think he's better. Is he what we need? It's hard to say, but he's worth exploring.

I think Lewis on 3C and Sheahan at 4C is pretty sweet.

While I am ok with RS as a 3C, it would be nice to do a bit better. RS as a4C would be pretty damn good. Replacing him with Lewis would be pretty sweet. I like that guy a lot.
 

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Great analysis of his game. Really well done.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but at least back it up with some substance.

45% CF this year and last, -4% CF relative to his teammates (6th worse on the team), producing points this year at a rate only slightly better than Riley Sheahan (.36 ppg Pageau, .31 Sheahan).

About the only positive thing I can say about him is he does score a little bit, at least historically (he was up to .40 ppg last year).

It'd be a disaster if we moved major assets for this guy. He's not worth it.
 
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I think Lewis on 3C and Sheahan at 4C is pretty sweet.

While I am ok with RS as a 3C, it would be nice to do a bit better. RS as a4C would be pretty damn good. Replacing him with Lewis would be pretty sweet. I like that guy a lot.

Yeah, he's increasingly appealing the more I think about it. His contract is fantastic, though, so he'd probably be expensive.
 

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Yeah, he's increasingly appealing the more I think about it. His contract is fantastic, though, so he'd probably be expensive.

Absolutely. Expensive is relative though. I"m not sure what it would cost nor will I venture a guess but it might be worth it. That would be some pretty insane center depth on 3 and 4.

Now the question becomes .. would Lewis work with our existing crop of wingers? Maybe. Maybe not. But I think its worth exploring.
 

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I'm curious, what do people think about bringing in Shaw as the 3C? I mentioned it last night, it's an interesting idea. He has basically the same contract as Bonino, but I think he might be a better fit here as the 3C.
 

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Absolutely. Expensive is relative though. I"m not sure what it would cost nor will I venture a guess but it might be worth it. That would be some pretty insane center depth on 3 and 4.

Now the question becomes .. would Lewis work with our existing crop of wingers? Maybe. Maybe not. But I think its worth exploring.

I'm pretty sure he's played on every line for LA except the first, which is definitely a point in his favor as far as adaptability. His speed game seems like a good fit on paper, although it goes without saying that there's more to line chemistry than that.
 

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Great idea, absolutely the type of player we need. Plus that cap hit is great. I've also always secretly hoped the pens would acquire Tanner Pearson.

I just flat out figured Pearson wouldn't be available. He's definitely a guy i'd be happy with for sure.
 

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Lewis is on track for a career year after a career full of stats you'd give a hard no to and he's doing it with a S% about half again as good as any he's previously had. Not saying definitely not but they do make me a bit cautious on the idea.
 

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I'm curious, what do people think about bringing in Shaw as the 3C? I mentioned it last night, it's an interesting idea. He has basically the same contract as Bonino, but I think he might be a better fit here as the 3C.
Isn’t Shaw still injured in Montreal?
 

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Lewis is a solid add, but he's not a 3C. He might be one of those fits that is better than the quality of player and everything gels, but I don't see how he's a better offensive player than Sheahan.

He's had seasons of 11, 25, 16, and 24 over the last 4 full seasons. He's on pace for a career year, but has a shooting % double his career average. He's also terrible in the faceoff dot at a career 42.5%.

He's a Hagelin replacement IMO that can play center.
 

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Isn’t Shaw still injured in Montreal?

Yeah he got injured about 10 days ago. That's not a move that would happen right now, that's likely a move that would happen in about 3 weeks from now if Shaw is healthy by then.

Shaw might be someone you can actually get for a package of Cole and a 2nd, because he was traded for 2 2nds not that long ago.
 

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Lewis is a solid add, but he's not a 3C. He might be one of those fits that is better than the quality of player and everything gels, but I don't see how he's a better offensive player than Sheahan.

He's had seasons of 11, 25, 16, and 24 over the last 4 full seasons. He's on pace for a career year, but has a shooting % double his career average. He's also terrible in the faceoff dot at a career 42.5%.

He's a Hagelin replacement IMO that can play center.

That was my thinking. I like him or Sheahan as the 4th line centre but not keen on one of them as the 3rd line centre. Being terrible at faceoffs is a bigger downer too.
 
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Lewis is a solid add, but he's not a 3C. He might be one of those fits that is better than the quality of player and everything gels, but I don't see how he's a better offensive player than Sheahan.

He's had seasons of 11, 25, 16, and 24 over the last 4 full seasons. He's on pace for a career year, but has a shooting % double his career average. He's also terrible in the faceoff dot at a career 42.5%.

He's a Hagelin replacement IMO that can play center.

I think JR's cards were shown. He was flat out looking at Vegas and Vegas only. Duchene was a hail mary if price came down. Pageau/Bozak are too pricey and i'm 100% sure JR asked.

It's time to think outside the box. People can post Sheahan's stats all they want, he doesn't mesh with Kessel and the team needs Kessel to be on his own line with a player who meshes well with him to dominate. So i'm just looking outside the box right now for ideas. Sheahan needs to play L4 C on this team. He may be a 3C on other teams, but he looks like garbage with Kessel.


edit: Post #66. Nothing better. Lemieux is a hockey god.
 

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I think JR's cards were shown. He was flat out looking at Vegas and Vegas only. Duchene was a hail mary if price came down. Pageau/Bozak are too pricey and i'm 100% sure JR asked.

It's time to think outside the box. People can post Sheahan's stats all they want, he doesn't mesh with Kessel and the team needs Kessel to be on his own line with a player who meshes well with him to dominate. So i'm just looking outside the box right now for ideas. Sheahan needs to play L4 C on this team. He may be a 3C on other teams, but he looks like garbage with Kessel.


edit: Post #66. Nothing better. Lemieux is a hockey god.

I agree we need another center. I just hope it's a good center and not one we pay through the nose for only to get a mediocre contribution.
 
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If they're gonna keep Guentzel-Kessel together (which I'm not sure is smart away from Geno), then a Hags-esque guy who can play centre might be an idea. Can always ride Guentzel for the face offs. That bit of it does at least make sense to me.
 

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If they're gonna keep Guentzel-Kessel together (which I'm not sure is smart away from Geno), then a Hags-esque guy who can play centre might be an idea. Can always ride Guentzel for the face offs. That bit of it does at least make sense to me.

It's why I'm thinking about Shaw as a potential fit for that line. You need someone who's smart defensively and physical to slide between Guentzel and Kessel (or Sheary and Kessel). Shaw certainly is that.
 

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How much impact has Cole not seeing any action this month on his trade value? What do you guys think?
 

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How much impact has Cole not seeing any action this month on his trade value? What do you guys think?

Cole being a healthy scratch combined with playing like garbage while hes in the lineup has to hurt his value.

I'm sure he still has some value, but not as much as he would of had before the season.
 

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Great analysis of his game. Really well done.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but at least back it up with some substance.
Check my last like 20 posts that have statistical analysis of Pageau , Sheahan and Bonino.

On another note, Paajarvi on waivers. He's better than literally everyone that's played on the Pens 4th line this year.
 

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Check my last like 20 posts that have statistical analysis of Pageau , Sheahan and Bonino.

On another note, Paajarvi on waivers. He's better than literally everyone that's played on the Pens 4th line this year.

Have you watched any of them though?
 

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Cole being a healthy scratch combined with playing like garbage while hes in the lineup has to hurt his value.

I'm sure he still has some value, but not as much as he would of had before the season.

Yeah from playing like garbage sure. Showing your floor doesnt help your trade value. But not playing isnt hurting anything. It might actually be helping if he continued to play poorly.
 
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