Salary Cap: Salary Cap & Roster Building | The Faster We Go the Rounder We Get

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Aug 14, 2011
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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.
2017-18 salary ceiling$75,000,000
Projected dollars committed
74,595,375​
Projected LTIR Used
84,259​
Approximate cap space
$488,884
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PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward..................................
Pos.
Age
..........2017-18
..........2018-19
..........2019-20
Evgeni Malkin
C​
31​
9,500,000​
9,500,000​
9,500,000​
Sidney Crosby
C​
30​
8,700,000​
8,700,000​
8,700,000​
Phil Kessel
RW​
29​
6,800,000​
6,800,000​
6,800,000​
Patric Hornqvist
RW​
30​
4,250,000​
UFA
Carl Hagelin
LW​
29​
4,000,000​
4,000,000​
UFA
Conor Sheary
LW​
25​
3,000,000​
3,000,000​
3,000,000​
Riley Sheahan
C​
25​
2,075,000​
RFA
Ryan Reaves
RW​
30​
1,125,000​
UFA
Jake Guentzel
LW​
22​
734,167​
734,167​
RFA
Dominik Simon
C/RW​
23​
692,500​
RFA
Bryan Rust
RW​
25​
640,000​
RFA
Jean-Sebastien Dea
C​
23​
650,000​
RFA
Tom Kuhnhackl
LW​
25​
625,000​
RFA
Carter Rowney
C​
28​
612,500​
UFA
Defense
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Kris Letang
D​
30​
7,250,000​
7,250,000​
7,250,000​
Justin Schultz
D​
27​
5,500,000​
5,500,000​
5,500,000​
Brian Dumoulin
D​
26​
4,100,000​
4,100,000​
4,100,000​
Olli Maatta
D​
23​
4,083,333​
4,083,333​
4,083,333​
Matt Hunwick
D​
32​
2,250,000​
2,250,000​
2,250,000​
Ian Cole
D​
28​
2,100,000​
UFA
Jamie Oleksiak
D​
25​
964,688​
RFA
Chad Ruhwedel
D​
27​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Goalie
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Matt Murray
G​
23​
3,750,000​
3,750,000​
3,750,000​
Casey DeSmith
G​
25​
675,000​
675,000​
UFA
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WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward..................................
Pos.
Age
..........2017-18
..........2018-19
..........2019-20
Zach Aston-Reese
LW​
23​
925,000​
925,000​
RFA
Adam Johnson
C​
23​
925,000​
925,000​
RFA
Thomas Di Pauli
C​
23​
742,500​
RFA
Freddie Tiffels
LW​
22​
742,500​
742,500​
RFA
Sam Miletic
LW​
20​
710,000​
710,000​
710,000​
Teddy Blueger
C​
23​
705,000​
RFA
Daniel Sprong
RW​
20​
692,500​
RFA
Garrett Wilson
LW​
24​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Greg McKegg
C​
25​
650,000​
RFA
Tom Sestito
LW​
29​
650,000​
UFA
Defense
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Andrey Pedan
D​
24​
750,000​
RFA
Jeff Taylor
D​
23​
742,500​
742,500​
RFA
Ethan Prow
D​
24​
730,000​
RFA
Lukas Bengtsson
D​
24​
705,000​
RFA
Frank Corrado
D​
24​
650,000​
RFA
Jarred Tinordi
D​
25​
650,000​
RFA
Zach Trotman
D​
27​
650,000​
UFA
Kevin Czuczman
D​
26​
650,000​
UFA
Chris Summers
D​
29​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Goalie
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Michael Leighton
G​
36​
650,000​
UFA
Tristan Jarry
G​
22​
630,833​
RFA
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SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current team
Contract
Filip Gustavsson
G​
19​
Lulea HF (SHL)​
3 years/775,833 per​
Alex D'Orio
G​
18​
Saint John (QMJHL)​
3 years/716,667 per​
Jordy Bellerive
C​
18​
Lethbridge (WHL)​
3 years/716,667 per​
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UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player
Pos.
Age
Current team
Niclas Almari
D​
19​
HPK (Liiga)
Anthony Angello
F​
21​
Cornell (ECAC)
Dane Birks
D​
21​
Michigan Tech (WCHA)
Kasper Bjorkqvist
F​
19​
Providence (HEA)
Jan Drozg
F​
18​
Shawinigan (QMJHL)
Connor Hall
D​
19​
Kitchener (OHL)
Ryan Jones
D​
21​
Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)
Sam Lafferty
F​
22​
Brown (ECAC)
Zachary Lauzon
D​
18​
Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)
Joe Masonius
D​
20​
Connecticut (HEA)
Linus Olund
F​
20​
Brynas IF (SHL)
Antti Palojarvi
D​
18​
Lukko U20 (SML Jr.A)
Nikita Pavlychev
F​
20​
Penn State (Big Ten)
Clayton Phillips
D​
17​
Fargo (USHL)
Will Reilly
D​
19​
RPI (ECAC)
Dominik Uher
C​
24​
HC Sparta Praha (ELH)
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Empoleon8771

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Kane is interesting because it leaves open the possibility of Sheahan staying as the 3C if you bring in Kane. I said this a while back, you either need to bring in the right wingers to have Sheahan to be the right 3C or the right 3C. If you brought in Kane and put him on the 3rd line, Sheahan as the 3C is perfectly fine. A Kane-Sheahan-Hornqvist line would be incredibly effective, which leaves Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel and Guentzel-Crosby-Simon as your 2nd and 1st lines. You'd still need to add another center, but it might be easier to bring in Kane and a good 4C than it is to bring in a good 3C. You know Buffalo is trading Kane and you know that say Edmonton is trading Letestu. You don't know if Ottawa is going to trade Pageau or Brassard.
 

Tom Hanks

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Cole is around 886k and Rowney much less.

Our "Deadline Cap space" is 2.2m not including those two. I think he fits.

I used the armchair GM tool on cap friendly and he didn’t fit. Included sending down Kuhn and we were down about a million
 

Ryder71

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Kane is interesting because it leaves open the possibility of Sheahan staying as the 3C if you bring in Kane. I said this a while back, you either need to bring in the right wingers to have Sheahan to be the right 3C or the right 3C. If you brought in Kane and put him on the 3rd line, Sheahan as the 3C is perfectly fine. A Kane-Sheahan-Hornqvist line would be incredibly effective
And how exactly can you conclusively say that line would be ''incredibly effective''? Based on what exactly?

If we don't upgrade our center core, we're screwed. And there's a reason why a 3C is harder to come by than a top six winger. That however doesn't mean you take the easier path and try to dress up your wings and leave your centers as is. You do all you can to accentuate your advantage at center and not mitigate it and hope adding good wingers will offset the void. It doesn't work that way.
 
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Empoleon8771

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And how exactly can you conclusively say that line would be ''incredibly effective''? Based on what exactly?

Because:

A. Kane and Hornqvist are both extremely good players.
B. Kane and Hornqvist are the kind of wingers that mask Sheahan's weaknesses extremely well and complement his style of game.

What's your evidence that they wouldn't be incredibly effective together? Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist worked really well earlier in the year, Kane in Sheary's spot is that original line on massive steroids.
 

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He has 18 goals in 30 games in the A. He’s three behind the league lead with 8 fewer games played.

I’m not calling him McJesus. But Id say that qualifies as having some pedigree as a guy adjusting to pro hockey.

My point is, NHL teams aren't going to be knocking down our doors to get him. He's a good prospect, but nothing more. He's not proven at the NHL level yet. Not enough to where he'd have huge value.
 

Ryder71

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Because:

A. Kane and Hornqvist are both extremely good players.
B. Kane and Hornqvist are the kind of wingers that mask Sheahan's weaknesses extremely well and complement his style of game.

What's your evidence that they wouldn't be incredibly effective together? Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist worked really well earlier in the year, Kane in Sheary's spot is that original line on massive steroids.
I'm not asserting one way or the other, you're asserting something that you can't possibly know. There's no evidence to support that claim. You're stating something that is your opinion as fact.
 

Tom Hanks

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Because:

A. Kane and Hornqvist are both extremely good players.
B. Kane and Hornqvist are the kind of wingers that mask Sheahan's weaknesses extremely well and complement his style of game.

What's your evidence that they wouldn't be incredibly effective together? Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist worked really well earlier in the year, Kane in Sheary's spot is that original line on massive steroids.

I mean yeah it’d probably work but what if other things aren’t working and you need to change things up. Does L3 become ineffective again?

If you have to cater to a player that much it’s best to find someone else.

Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist was a pretty small sample size too a few games at most.
 

Ryder71

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I mean yeah it’d probably work but what if other things aren’t working and you need to change things up. Does L3 become ineffective again?

If you have to cater to a player that much it’s best to find someone else.

Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist was a pretty small sample size too a few games at most.

Yep, If we got Kane we have no idea what line Sully would put him on. My guess is he'd play in the top six, but we can't know for sure.
 

Empoleon8771

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I mean yeah it’d probably work but what if other things aren’t working and you need to change things up. Does L3 become ineffective again?

If you have to cater to a player that much it’s best to find someone else.

Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist was a pretty small sample size too a few games at most.

I would find some other way to do that, one that doesn't include taking apart the 3rd line if it's working. You have Simon, Rust, Guentzel, Hagelin, Kessel and Sprong as guys you can try on those top-2 lines if you need to find something that works. I'd exhaust those options and then consider splitting up the 3rd line.
 

Ryder71

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We have currently 1.2 in cap space so you can use full AAV’s and add the 1.2 mil onto Rowney/Cole.........I think :laugh:
Here's how it works, if we make a trade say tonight we can take on approx a million dollars more than the team we trade with. So if say we want someone who's a five million dollar cap hit we need to send four million out. That doesn't take into account salary retention however.
 

Rakell67

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Yep, If we got Kane we have no idea what line Sully would put him on. My guess is he'd play in the top six, but we can't know for sure.
I’m no expert but I think he would do best on Sid’s LW since EK is a north/south skater, crashing the net, causing havoc as well as being Sid’s bodyguard.

Kane Crosby Sheary
Hagelin Malkin Hornqvist
Guentzel Sheahan Kessel
Simon Dea Rust
Kuhnhackl Rowney Reaves

That’s some serious depth but I think 3C is more important than a LW rental.
 
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Riptide

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Honestly, I can easily see him just making a couple of value moves. Get a LW with a little sandpaper and bring in a low level C who's better than Rowney.
 

Sideline

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Phil Kessel is a top 10 offensive player in the NHL. Sheahan can't produce playing with Phil. Sheahan is not an acceptable 3rd line center.
 
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Riptide

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Tom Hanks said:
Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist was a pretty small sample size too a few games at most.

And yet it's still (iirc) his 4th or 5th most consistent set of linemates.
 
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