Salary Cap: Salary Cap & Roster Building: Does it even Maatta? The defense is still absolute Jack.

[Honour Over Glory]

He has a NTC...full one

I think Hornqvist would be open to leaving. Being used on the 3rd line and what not isn't going to sit well with him.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Yikes to the cap strapped teams. The Penguins probably have to clear out another $1 million to get cap compliant now.

 

[Peat]

who?

Ruhwedel & Riikola

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I thought at first the ownership was the issue, but from all accounts Ari really wants Duchene. So maybe it wasnt about the money and they just arent interested in Kessel?

Maybe it's both. You can't have a C like Duchene and the cap space to get Kessel and not reap the benefits of how buzz worthy that is for that team for the first time since forever.

Duchene
Kessel
Pubestache Keller
Galchenyuk

Not bad 4.

 

[Andy99]

Once again, I'm not sure about this Rip. His points/60 at ES of 2.3 was his highest since his 2013-14 season. Primary assists at ES were 1.0 / 60, only the 2nd time in his career he averaged that high. His shots were down after about game 20 because no one was getting him the puck effectively, cutting his goal totals. If Geno could win a faceoff, he'd probably have a couple more goals right off draws.

I'm highlighting ES production here, because everyone knows about the PP production.

He's just not a good mix with the bad/frustrated/injured version of Geno unless they've got some actual support from the LW and D, which they got very little of last year. Probably easier to find some supporting pieces for our elite talent than vice versa.

Here's a quote from Foligno of the BJ's I saw today from Yohe:

“The way I look at it is pretty simple. As long as you have Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin and Phil Kessel on the same hockey team together, then you’re always going to be a threat to be a great team, and to be a championship team. That’s how I look at it. Those guys have been that good, and they still are that good, from the standpoint of someone who plays against them a lot.”

Is this even an honest opinion or maybe an incentive to just spew some bs? Can one be sure because maybe this guy just wants to run all the soff players the Pens have...

 

[Malkinstheman]

Yikes to the cap strapped teams. The Penguins probably have to clear out another $1 million to get cap compliant now.

Well Vegas is gonna be busy. Gotta move Clarkson+Miller/Eakin/Haula atleast.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Yikes to the cap strapped teams. The Penguins probably have to clear out another $1 million to get cap compliant now.

How? We have 5m or so in cap space at the moment. A few smaller rfas and Pettersson.

 

[Andy99]

I think Hornqvist would be open to leaving. Being used on the 3rd line and what not isn't going to sit well with him.

What makes you say that? He won two cups here and just signed that contract last year in which he wanted a NTC attached...doesn’t seem likely...just a fantasy...I’d like to trade him too but not happening imo...

 

[Andy99]

Well Vegas is gonna be busy. Gotta move Clarkson+Miller/Eakin/Haula atleast.

Haula and Miller for Phil saves them $500k...it’s a start...I’d do that...We’d still need to move JJ and one of Guds or Schultz then

 

[Honour Over Glory]

What makes you say that? He won two cups here and just signed that contract last year in which he wanted a NTC attached...doesn’t seem likely...just a fantasy...I’d like to trade him too but not happening imo...

If approached, I think Horny would be open to it. Sid doesn't want him on his line and he doesn't seem to work on Genos anymore. So you think with Jake now getting more pp1 time and Horny getting more 3rd line time, he's just gonna be happy to ride that out?

 

[dogthateats]

What's wrong with DeSmith? He provides league average backup goaltending .
Plus we're a cap team...can't be adding dollars (Mrazek is gonna want $4M plus)

What? I was asking if Carolina would be willing to trade for Jarry.

 

[TimmyD]

Well that means Rust is probably gone

 

[Empoleon8771]

How? We have 5m or so in cap space at the moment. A few smaller rfas and Pettersson.

They were at the $83 million cap with keeping Kessel and signing the RFAs to what they'd get. They only have about $4 million in cap space if the cap drops to $81.5 million when they need to sign Pettersson, ZAR, Blueger and a depth forward.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Well that means Rust is probably gone

Or we could just get rid of Jack Johnson's $3+ million anchor.

 

[DesertPenguin]

A lot of this depends on what Pettersson extends for. I think we are very very close to the cap as is.

 

[TimmyD]

Or we could just get rid of Jack Johnson's $3+ million anchor.

Who is going to be willing to take that anchor without giving us another anchor back?

 

[Shady Machine]

JJ is the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks JR!

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Who is going to be willing to take that anchor without giving us another anchor back?

Ottawa. They owe us after the Brassard trade.

 

[TimmyD]

Ottawa. They owe us after the Brassard trade.

Ottawa will only take a cap dump if they are getting an “attractive asset” attached to it... so that means either the 1st or someone like Rust is also going in that scenario. It wouldn’t just be JJ straight up

 

[Shady Machine]

I think Hornqvist would be open to leaving. Being used on the 3rd line and what not isn't going to sit well with him.

The coach and GM love him and from all account so do his teammates. He might be open to leaving but he holds all of the cards so it's not going to be easy to get any value, which we absolutely have to do. Plus, if he goes, you need to replace him in some capacity. Just a tough thing to pull off IMO.

 

[KIRK]

Yohe with an article talking to Nic Foligno of all people about how the Pens shouldn’t split up the core.

Can we make Foligno GM?

 

[DesertPenguin]

Kessel for Zucker more or less gets us there if that comes back around.

You could also just buy out JJ if you needed to.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Maybe teams should have waited a bit to figure out how the cap was going to look to do all those big trades.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Or we could just get rid of Jack Johnson's $3+ million anchor.

Just like all homeless people should just buy a house so they can stop being homeless.

 

[KIRK]

I own my own business & work for myself...

And bless us with your presence for sport?