When the team is also "trying" to trade the player. He's worth a lot more to Buffalo than he would be elsewhere. It's gonna be hard to find him a new home in that case. It's like you're saying, "We want to trade him, but we're going to ask for way more than he's worth to you, because he's worth that much to us," without realizing other teams are going to respond, "Well, okay, then keep him."
Ehlers shouldn't be in the conversation with the other two, this is a guy that's had back to back 60 point seasons at 21 and 22. The only reason he's being brought up is because he had a down year due to some injuries and now everybody wants to buy low on him. He is 100% a 1st liner, at 23 years old, locked into a long term deal.Guys like Ehlers, Cirelli or Mantha are NOT getting you a top pair D man of similar age. Asking for one of them is not asking for top pairing return. When did people start believing that young top pairing D men are only worth a 2C or a 2nd line winger?
If you think the price is too high that is fine but that's not 24 year old top pairing D prices.
And where did you hear that rumour?hes -41 now there is a rumor the oilers will give Nuge for him a strong 2 way center who put up 28 goals and 41 assists for a -43 5 goal 38 assists so called defenseman. God the oilers would be dumb to do this.
I disagree and quite frankly i don't think your stance makes much sense in this situation. Risto has term left so he can't leave for nothing, a good enough contract, no rumors of lockeroom problems or trade requests, and Bogo and Pulit are injured to start the year so there will be room. If people don't want to meet your price you just keep him and see what is available next trade deadline or next summer. Hell with how much you guys are talking about how badly he sucks its clear his trade value can't get lower than it already is so there is zero risk in keeping him if all you are offering is your 3c from your AHL team. This is just common sense. Why give away an asset for essentially nothing of any value whatsoever? It makes zero sense in the context of this player.
its not exactly credible...Eklund, so I do not put much creedance into it, just the thought of it is stupid though.And where did you hear that rumour?
Yeah, not surprised it's Eklund. No chance the Oilers would make that move.its not exactly credible...Eklund, so I do not put much creedance into it, just the thought of it is stupid though.
Monster trade brewing between Sabres and Oilers!!??
It just seems like, if he's that valuable to Buffalo, that they can't trade him unless a 25 goal guy is coming back, then shouldn't they just keep him? Because it's gonna take an aneurysm for a GM to give up that player in this deal.
its not exactly credible...Eklund, so I do not put much creedance into it, just the thought of it is stupid though.
Monster trade brewing between Sabres and Oilers!!??
Well yeah, if they don't get offered what they are looking for, or at least something close, then they should just keep him.
But due to the moves and acquisitions Buffalo has made this off-season, RD is a position of strength for them. And Risto is their most valuable RD. So why wouldn't they test the market to see if they can deal him for someone in a position that they're weaker in?
It just seems like, if he's that valuable to Buffalo, that they can't trade him unless a 25 goal guy is coming back, then shouldn't they just keep him? Because it's gonna take an aneurysm for a GM to give up that player in this deal.
Ristolainen + Larsson for Nugent-Hopkins
Edmonton gets a 2-way center who can play a bottom 9 role in addition to a top 4 RHD on a good deal. Buffalo gets a top 6 C who can play behind Eichel and help ease Mittelstadt along.
Ehlers shouldn't be in the conversation with the other two, this is a guy that's had back to back 60 point seasons at 21 and 22. The only reason he's being brought up is because he had a down year due to some injuries and now everybody wants to buy low on him. He is 100% a 1st liner, at 23 years old, locked into a long term deal.
You want to get a Sam Reinhart in return but you're only offering up a guy that had only 1 more ES point than Cody Ceci.
Yes. But for the record, I don't know where you got this arbitrary 25 goal criteria from. I said nothing about them needing to be a 25 goal scorer and i haven't seen a single other person who has either.
Larsson is not a good addition, you would need at minimum a 20goal winger with Risto with the oilers adding in a defenseman for cap reasons which I do not think you guys have. so No deal to be made. Just bad trade partners based off of needs. Really.Bringing up one of our top rated D prospects should be able to fill in for what risto is being sold as. as Bouchard and Samorukov have showed strong offensive games.Ristolainen + Larsson for Nugent-Hopkins
Edmonton gets a 2-way center who can play a bottom 9 role in addition to a top 4 RHD on a good deal. Buffalo gets a top 6 C who can play behind Eichel and help ease Mittelstadt along.
Sure. But they're asking for an over-payment on a player they're trying to trade. This isn't "Teams are asking Buffalo about Ristolainen but Buffalo is asking for an over-payment." This is, "Buffalo is trying to trade Ristolainen for an over-payment."
It would be like, "Tampa Bay is trying to trade JT Miller but will only accept a top-10 pick in return."
Ehlers, Mantha, Connor... All three of these guys were listed in the post I responded to, to which response you then responded, and here we are.