Sabres Head Coach Search 2

[flashsabre]

What if a giant meteor hits Buffalo?

It would fail to destroy everything and people would come on hfboards day after day after day after day after day to complain that it was Bott's fault. Either that or Botts giant melon would deflect the meteor and he would be hailed a hero!!

 

[Archie Lee]

The worst part is that it doesn't even matter who Botts hires. He could get Keefe now and half these boards will still talk about how the sky is falling because Botts didn't get a coach with NHL experience. If he gets a guy like Tippett then those same people will say how much they hate retreads and how the sky is still falling.

This is true, of course. The reality is there is more than one coach who is the "right guy" and there are many, many, many who are not.

I like Tippett as my first choice because I think he is an excellent coach and leader. If we opt for a younger, less experienced coach then I think we will be fortunate if said coach ends up being as good as Tippett is. In other words, now is the time to go with the more sure of a thing.

That said, Keefe, Gronborg, Nelson, Lambert and many others, including some I'm sure who I have never considered, would give me cause for optimism.

 

[Dreakon13]

What if a giant meteor hits Buffalo?

Well that doesn't seem like a very productive line of conversation.

Anywho, we never did find a reason why that 6th for 6th deal happened right? You know, besides "incompetence", HF's favorite go-to?

 

[Sabre the Win]

Our suffering would finally end.

Unless the team was away on a road trip or out of state for the summer. If that's the case our misery would be compounded with no home, little food, death and the Sabres would still be a hockey team.

 

[Buffaloed]

Our suffering would finally end.

I think we can compete for the Zombie Apocalypse Cup.

 

[sabremike]

I think we can compete for the Zombie Apocalypse Cup.

Good news- La Nova pizza would survive the apocalypse.

Bad news- La Nova pizza would survive the apocalypse.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

Unless the team was away on a road trip or out of state for the summer. If that's the case our misery would be compounded with no home, little food, death and the Sabres would still be a hockey team.

And

 

[Tatre]

Minor relief with the Therrien news. Philly is sure doubling down on hardass staff

 

[buffalowing88]

And

I thought that was the funniest line in a movie I'd ever heard when I was 6.


I still think that's the funniest line I have ever heard in a movie when I am 30.

 

[MagnumForce2]

What if a giant meteor hits Buffalo?

Man, you are funny

 

[JThorne]

What if a giant meteor hits Buffalo?

After finally hitting Tilted Towers, I wouldn't put it past Buffalo to be next.

 

[Paxon]

What if that weird 6th round pick deal with Toronto before was a good faith thing for them to play nice should Buffalo pursue Keefe, if Housley didn't pan out?

There is a 0% chance of that being the case. What kind of incentive would that be for Torono? Why would a deal even mentioning Keefe have been made at that time?

 

[Dreakon13]

There is a 0% chance of that being the case. What kind of incentive would that be for Torono? Why would a deal even mentioning Keefe have been made at that time?

Fair enough, just throwing ideas out there. Having a little fun.

I suppose if Toronto can't legally block us from reaching out to Keefe with the job offer, then it wouldn't be "incentive" so to speak. Just more of a "no hard feelings if we try to poach your guy in the near future" on Botts part with a somewhat trivial 6th round pick swap, and Toronto gets to move up in the 6th round... maybe get a better shot to pick a guy they were targeting late in the draft. (EDIT: And in this unlikely scenario, I imagine that it's Toronto that comes calling initially, asking "hey what would you want to swap 6ths?" and Botts obliges with a wink and a nudge.)

And I suppose, at that time, maybe they didn't have so much faith in Housley. Enough to give him a chance to redeem himself or follow up with what he learned the previous year, but realistically trying to gameplan for what happens and who to look at if he doesn't. And then he didn't.

 

[HaNotsri]

Am I the only one that wants nothing to do with Gronborg?

Why isn't the guy coaching a team, besides the Swedish national teams? He talks about wanting to coach in North America so bad, but why doesn't he start with coaching a team in maybe the Swedish hockey league?

The only HC experience I see on an actual team is back in 2003 in the AWHL.

I'm actually wondering why he would even be in conversation for an NHL HC job. Makes zero sense.

Head coach of the national team is a fulltime job so he can’t coach another team in the meantime. Stepping down from that would reauire a major NLA/KHL contract to be worth it.

Rönnberg is 100 times better however.

 

[Zip15]

I wonder if they'd interview Mike Vellucci, the head coach of the Charlotte Checkers. He just won AHL Coach of the Year. The Checkers have had 96 and 110 pts in his two seasons there - the latter of which was even sabotaged by having to play Scott Darling 14 times after he got sent down (he only won 5 of those games). The Checkers and Marlies (Keefe) seem to be barreling towards a conference finals showdown. Vellucci also had pretty good success with Plymouth in the OHL. He's blocked by Brind'amour in that organization. If we're going with a no-stone-unturned approach, he probably warrants at least an interview.

 

[debaser66]

The worst part is that it doesn't even matter who Botts hires. He could get Keefe now and half these boards will still talk about how the sky is falling because Botts didn't get a coach with NHL experience. If he gets a guy like Tippett then those same people will say how much they hate retreads and how the sky is still falling.

Honestly I would be fine with Keefe or Gronberg.
Not so much with Martin/Tippett.
The interesting retreads are gone.
The situation changes so people change their opinions.
I see myself falling in the complaining loop and I am not proud of it.
But if you really want things to change around here I suggest you try a different attitude yourself unless you want to complain about people complaining which you did in a generalizing way mirroring the very same attitude you don't like to see around here.

 

[OkimLom]

I wonder if they'd interview Mike Vellucci, the head coach of the Charlotte Checkers. He just won AHL Coach of the Year. The Checkers have had 96 and 110 pts in his two seasons there - the latter of which was even sabotaged by having to play Scott Darling 14 times after he got sent down (he only won 5 of those games). The Checkers and Marlies (Keefe) seem to be barreling towards a conference finals showdown. Vellucci also had pretty good success with Plymouth in the OHL. He's blocked by Brind'amour in that organization. If we're going with a no-stone-unturned approach, he probably warrants at least an interview.

Really like his resume. I'd be okay with that hire.

 

[Chainshot]

I wonder if they'd interview Mike Vellucci, the head coach of the Charlotte Checkers. He just won AHL Coach of the Year. The Checkers have had 96 and 110 pts in his two seasons there - the latter of which was even sabotaged by having to play Scott Darling 14 times after he got sent down (he only won 5 of those games). The Checkers and Marlies (Keefe) seem to be barreling towards a conference finals showdown. Vellucci also had pretty good success with Plymouth in the OHL. He's blocked by Brind'amour in that organization. If we're going with a no-stone-unturned approach, he probably warrants at least an interview.

His resume is most impressive. And he's still working too.

 

[Royal Thunder]

Honestly I would be fine with Keefe or Gronberg.
Not so much with Martin/Tippett.
The interesting retreads are gone.
The situation changes so people change their opinions.
I see myself falling in the complaining loop and I am not proud of it.
But if you really want things to change around here I suggest you try a different attitude yourself unless you want to complain about people complaining which you did in a generalizing way mirroring the very same attitude you don't like to see around here.

I think you're undervaluing Tippett... IMO he's very much in the AV/MacLellan tier (interesting retreads), not the Martin tier.

 

[Revelate]

I wonder if they'd interview Mike Vellucci, the head coach of the Charlotte Checkers. He just won AHL Coach of the Year. The Checkers have had 96 and 110 pts in his two seasons there - the latter of which was even sabotaged by having to play Scott Darling 14 times after he got sent down (he only won 5 of those games). The Checkers and Marlies (Keefe) seem to be barreling towards a conference finals showdown. Vellucci also had pretty good success with Plymouth in the OHL. He's blocked by Brind'amour in that organization. If we're going with a no-stone-unturned approach, he probably warrants at least an interview.

Wow this is weird, because I came here to ask why he isn’t talked about as an NHL coaching candidate in general. His Checkers have been a buzzsaw this year.

 

[Mattilaus]

Honestly I would be fine with Keefe or Gronberg.
Not so much with Martin/Tippett.
The interesting retreads are gone.
The situation changes so people change their opinions.
I see myself falling in the complaining loop and I am not proud of it.
But if you really want things to change around here I suggest you try a different attitude yourself unless you want to complain about people complaining which you did in a generalizing way mirroring the very same attitude you don't like to see around here.

You should check my post history. I have been trying to do that for almost the entire year. Constantly preached optimism and a wait and see attitude prior to being pessimistic. Got tired of being told how stupid I was and now I post much less often and stopped trying.

 

[Buffaloed]

From when the Canes were selecting a coach
The case for and against Mike Vellucci as the Carolina Hurricanes next head coach | Canes & Coffee

 

[Buffaloed]

Let's go FULL SWEDE!

Head: Rikard Gronborg
Associate: Ulf Samuelsson
Assistant: Kjell Samuelsson
Assistant: Ulf Dahlen

This could be a good coaching staff. You can't go wrong with 3 Samuelssons and you can never have too many Dahlens.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

Minor relief with the Therrien news. Philly is sure doubling down on hardass staff

As well as Yeo, who to me would have been the worst possible follow-up option for Housley.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

Came across another interesting article on Tippett

Dave Tippett hired to set up NHL Seattle's foundation - NHL to SEATTLE

Sports science, maximizing player potential, training, and player development are all things that Tippett wants to help establish in Seattle. Tippett talks at detail about studying player recovery, sleep, and nutrition as being important for any franchise to look at. With how much money a team invests into its players, making sure that they have state of the art facilities, training, coaching, and information is vital.

Tippett mentions a software system, called XOS, that he utilizes that allows him, or any coach, to watch every NHL game and break down individual players shifts, faceoffs, and shots. It’s all part of the evolution of hockey.


....“I’ve done my own analytics program since I started coaching. I had a whole system that I’ve built through that XOS. Some numbers like Fenwick and Corsi, they’re garbage. They’re garbage because they come off the stats upstairs. Every stat that I keep comes off a video that I watch, a scoring chance that I’ve watched and whose involved in it.”