Post-Game Talk: Sabres 2 @ Canucks 5 | 7/12/15

[Bougieman]

My god, is the Pacific ever a hot mess this season. Canucks are tied for second lowest amount of wins of any team in the league, and still have a playoff spot in the Pacific. *shakes head*

 

[thepoeticgoblin]

My god, is the Pacific ever a hot mess this season. Canucks are tied for second lowest amount of wins of any team in the league, and still have a playoff spot in the Pacific. *shakes head*

Blessing in disguise or is it a curse? I lean towards the second alternative sadly.. and I normally despise tanking.

 

[DFAC]

My god, is the Pacific ever a hot mess this season. Canucks are tied for second lowest amount of wins of any team in the league, and still have a playoff spot in the Pacific. *shakes head*

Meh, not so long ago the Pacific was considered the best division in hockey and the Central was brutal. It happens, teams get good and then become bad.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Blessing in disguise or is it a curse? I lean towards the second alternative sadly.. and I normally despise tanking.

I loathe the notion of "tanking" but if we miss the playoffs and get a middling pick because of a record number of loser points ... that will be the Canuckiest thing that's ever happened.

 

[geebaan]

Cool, funny how the two cup finalists last year had fourth lines consisting of players who could actually play the game well. Kruger and Paquete were both excellent for their teams. I'm not one that undervalues tough players that can actually play the sport but, finding a quality 4th liner is extremely easy, and numerous could be had for under 2 million a year.

Cracknell is the perfect example of your premise.

 

[thepoeticgoblin]

I loathe the notion of "tanking" but if we miss the playoffs and get a middling pick because of a record number of loser points ... that will be the Canuckiest thing that's ever happened.

Pretty much. I, personally, take a playoff run over drafting top 5 any day - but I don't see how this team makes the playoff right now and a middle of the pack pick doesn't really do anything for the organization.

 

[CP]

Even if they miss the playoffs, they likely pick in the 10 to 14 range. I'd rather pick in the 15 to18 range and see some playoff games.

Anyone who thinks the Canucks will ever win the lottery hasn't followed this team long enough. So let's just avoid the tank and cheer for a win.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

I loathe the notion of "tanking" but if we miss the playoffs and get a middling pick because of a record number of loser points ... that will be the Canuckiest thing that's ever happened.

Even if they miss the playoffs, they likely pick in the 10 to 14 range. I'd rather pick in the 15 to18 range and see some playoff games.

Anyone who thinks the Canucks will ever win the lottery hasn't followed this team long enough. So let's just avoid the tank and cheer for a win.

remember the 2005 draft lottery when all those teams' balls came up but not ours until 21? did anyone believe for real, even in the moment of watching it, that we could win the lottery and get crosby? or did we all expect to get the high but not that high pick, pass on the franchise player who fell to us, draft a project, who then would tragically die before even becoming a regular player? #canuckiest

 

[Disappointed EP40]

Even if they miss the playoffs, they likely pick in the 10 to 14 range. I'd rather pick in the 15 to18 range and see some playoff games.

Anyone who thinks the Canucks will ever win the lottery hasn't followed this team long enough. So let's just avoid the tank and cheer for a win.

What a bizarre statement. You think there's voodoo magic happening? Like the universe cares that much about keeping the Canucks down?

We're one injury away from bottom 5

 

[Nick Lang]

My god, is the Pacific ever a hot mess this season. Canucks are tied for second lowest amount of wins of any team in the league, and still have a playoff spot in the Pacific. *shakes head*

numbers, learning them will have a significant value in life

 

[I am toxic]

What a bizarre statement. You think there's voodoo magic happening? Like the universe cares that much about keeping the Canucks down?

We're one injury away from bottom 5

Yes. Yes it does.

The only time the universe took some time off was when the NHL let the Bure draft selection stand.

OK, and acquiring Naslund.

 

[okSourdough]

remember the 2005 draft lottery when all those teams' balls came up but not ours until 21? did anyone believe for real, even in the moment of watching it, that we could win the lottery and get crosby? or did we all expect to get the high but not that high pick, pass on the franchise player who fell to us, draft a project, who then would tragically die before even becoming a regular player? #canuckiest

Actually we drafted 10th that year not 21st. Luc Bourdon rest his soul.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Buffalo were terrible. Started off well then disappeared.

Ullmark was all over the place. Looked like a junior goalie.

Bartkowski needs to go; just awful.

 

[Hardyvan123]

Pretty much. I, personally, take a playoff run over drafting top 5 any day - but I don't see how this team makes the playoff right now and a middle of the pack pick doesn't really do anything for the organization.

a playoff run is one thing but this team is actually worse than the first round exit against Calgary last year.

A top 5 pick is what is desperately needed and some high end Dman prospects even moreso.

 

[Hardyvan123]

What a bizarre statement. You think there's voodoo magic happening? Like the universe cares that much about keeping the Canucks down?

We're one injury away from bottom 5

don't you know that every time something doesn't go the Canucks way it's a conspiracy...well at least to far too many fans it is.

The lottery in the draft is just that a lottery can go anyway.

 

[Tinhorn1]

don't you know that every time something doesn't go the Canucks way it's a conspiracy...well at least to far too many fans it is.

The lottery in the draft is just that a lottery can go anyway.

Lighten up. As a Canucks fan it's enjoyable to moan about the team's history of bad luck. Don't take away people's small, harmless pleasures.

 

[MikeK]

Getting the points suck right now, but man is it ever fun to win.

 

[mathonwy]

Getting the points suck right now, but man is it ever fun to win.

1 win and everyone becomes friendly again.

 

[coldsteel79]

1 win and everyone becomes friendly again.

Nope

 

[MikeK]

1 win and everyone becomes friendly again.

I wasn't aware there were unfriendly's about. Oh well.

 

[coldsteel79]

I wasn't aware there were unfriendly's about. Oh well.

Everybody hates each other here it's what keeps people posting

 

[CanaFan]

Actually we drafted 10th that year not 21st. Luc Bourdon rest his soul.

I assume the poster was counting backwards from 30, as the lottery results were announced 30th, 29th, etc. We were the 21st team "announced" when we were revealed to have the 10th pick. Confused me a bit too but ultimately it is correct.

 

[CanaFan]

Even if they miss the playoffs, they likely pick in the 10 to 14 range. I'd rather pick in the 15 to18 range and see some playoff games.

Anyone who thinks the Canucks will ever win the lottery hasn't followed this team long enough. So let's just avoid the tank and cheer for a win.

Depends. If this team looked like the 2011 team, then hell ya sign me up.

Since this team looks like a worse version of the 2015 team that got punted by the lowest seeded team in the entire playoffs ... nah, I'd rather pass on getting embarrassed and just pick 1-8 spots higher.

 

[CanaFan]

Lighten up. As a Canucks fan it's enjoyable to moan about the team's history of bad luck. Don't take away people's small, harmless pleasures.

If they were just moaning then sure, fill yer boots.

But they were using it (it appeared) as a legitimate argument for the tired ol' "hey guys let's all forget that stupid tank and cheer for a win" trope that gets dragged out every 4 or 5 games after the team manages to muster up a win.

So really its not about lightening up, its about not having to listen to stupid arguments for why we should all drink the kool-aid together.

But don't worry, I get it. We beat Buffalo. Exciting times. Woo hoo playoffs!!!

 

[tantalum]

I thought both teams were a mess defensively for much of the first. Which isn't a shock because both teams are a mess defensively. Against most other teams the canucks aren't getting a sniff at some of the goals they scored. Sabres were very sloppy and they tired quickly playing back to back and third in 4 nights with travel (Arizona --> Edmonton --> Vancouver). Still don't like the 30+ shots against.

I'm not sure that play will win a lot of games, but it was a step forward, just not a huge one IMO.