Confirmed with Link: Ryan Dzingel traded to Ottawa for Cedric Paquette, Alex Galchenyuk

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Geekie has ranged from mediocre to downright bad this year. I'm not giving up on him, but this could certainly make us better right now. Galchenyuk is decent enough as a depth guy. Maybe he'll find something in this situation that's been missing the last year+. He needs to do whatever he can to get things off on the right foot with Brindy to have a chance.

Geekie probably just needs more time to develop. He's still only 22. This is an exciting opportunity for both guys to (once again, in Paquette's case) play on a leading Cup contender and gives Geekie more time to work on his game.

One silver lining for Galchenyuk is that his defensive metrics improved considerably when he was in Minnesota. Perhaps Carolina can work on this and he can re-invent himself to stay in the league?

 

[vorbis]

Geekie has ranged from mediocre to downright bad this year. I'm not giving up on him, but this could certainly make us better right now. Galchenyuk is decent enough as a depth guy. Maybe he'll find something in this situation that's been missing the last year+. He needs to do whatever he can to get things off on the right foot with Brindy to have a chance.

this is pretty much where I was going with my thoughts about the trade.

the image of Geekie falling on his face in the paint in front of James Reimer the other night while Mark Pysyk waltzed in and picked a corner, followed by Geekie sitting for the rest of the night, made me think this trade is "yeah Geekie ain't it right now" combined with wanting to do Dzingel a solid as he sets up for another free agency.

 

[surfzone365]

I'm not against this. Low risk transaction with probable upside to it

 

[GoldiFox]

I wonder if the Canes were interested in Paquette in the offseason but missed out. By Ottawa fans' account he has sucked and looked disinterested. But he is a pending UFA and he will be playing for a contender so ideally he sees it as a second chance and brings his aggressive, physical game.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Dzingle was overpayed for his lineup slot, and was kind of a square peg in a round hole.

This is important to keep in mind when thinking about future acquisitions. A speedy winger that doesn't play with jam and that a coach doesn't trust defensively is not a fit for this current group of players.

 

[Wolfpuck]

I wonder if the Canes were interested in Paquette in the offseason but missed out. By Ottawa fans' account he has sucked and looked disinterested. But he is a pending UFA and he will be playing for a contender so ideally he sees it as a second chance and brings his aggressive, physical game.

That’s my thought as well. Paquette was solid for the Bolts. He didn’t suddenly forget how to play hockey when he went to Ottawa. I won’t blame him for being bad on a bad team when he was previously good on a good team.

 

[DougieSmash]

Collect all bottom six grinders: Martinook, Fast, McGinn, Foegele, Paquette. Profit.

 

[surfzone365]

By Ottawa fans' account he has sucked and looked disinterested.

I'd venture to say that is the mood if you're anywhere on the Ottawa or Buffalo roster. Maybe there will be renewed life with us!

 

[Svechhammer]

I think people are being a bit too kind right now.

Zinger was not a good player for us. The fit wasn't there, sure, but he didn't make the most of the opportunities that he did get. If we can get a consistent roster player who contributes even on a non scoring 4th line basis, that's an improvement over what we got out of him.

 

[hag65]

Geekie ain't cutting it, and I like the idea of more grit, too many liberties being taken. I'm optimistic.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Worst case cap is saved

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

One thing that I'll give our FO credit for is that they will move and shake no matter how well the team is playing overall to make the team better. There is certainly some risk to this deal, however. By all accounts, Paquette was horribad in Ottawa. You have to hope that the Tampa Paquette returns when dealt to a Cup contender.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

I would not be surprised if Dzingle was going taxi squad when Necas comes back. This deal is likely seen as a cap discount with possible upside

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I wouldn't be happy with any in season deal that touched core pieces, locker room chemistry guys, or valuable futures.

Zinger, bless his heart, was none of those things. So fine, roll the dice. Any return is good.

 

[AD Skinner]

I remember galchenyuk being pretty good for Montreal not long ago. Looking at his stats he's not far removed from putting up 40-50 point seasons consistently... what happened that has his bouncing all over the league? This will be his 5th team in 3 years

 

[Navin R Slavin]

One thing that I'll give our FO credit for is that they will move and shake no matter how well the team is playing overall to make the team better. There is certainly some risk to this deal, however. By all accounts, Paquette was horribad in Ottawa. You have to hope that the Tampa Paquette returns when dealt to a Cup contender.

The only possible risk is sitting different guys.

 

[Negan4Coach]

I mean considering that I've actually heard of both these other guys, I like it.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

This is important to keep in mind when thinking about future acquisitions. A speedy winger that doesn't play with jam and that a coach doesn't trust defensively is not a fit for this current group of players.

Important to consider that value contracts should not always be pursued. They chased it with Gardiner and Dzingel.

 

[DaveG]

I was really disappointed with Paquette in Ottawa ... but hell, who can tell with how bad everyone was playing. He was noticeably bad tho. Galchenyuk just wasn’t impactful in any way...also he was not played up in the lineup. Still has a rocket one timer.
Honestly it works for both teams.

Yep. Fits what we need in terms of cutting nearly a million in cap and adds some grit to the 4th liner. Dzingle was better this season but still not the best fit here, and he's familiar with the situation in Ottawa so this is doing a solid by him as well.

I'll be stunned if Galchenyuk is in more than half a dozen games for us this season

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Important to consider that value contracts should not always be pursued. They chased it with Gardiner and Dzingel.

Except Gardiner is actually panning out. Which gives us the true corollary here: chase value, cut losses.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

The only possible risk is sitting different guys.

One guy that's not pulling their weight can create a chain reaction and cause other guys to not play well. Paquette is still somewhat of a risk: a small one, but a risk nonetheless.

 

[surfzone365]

Except Gardiner is actually panning out. Which gives us the true corollary here: chase value, cut losses.

When we win the Cup this year, Gardiner will be the 3rd one to hoist it. I believe in Jake!

 

[Navin R Slavin]

One guy that's not pulling their weight can create a chain reaction and cause other guys to not play well. Paquette is still somewhat of a risk: a small one, but a risk nonetheless.

Not if that guy sits. I think we can trust Brindy not to hand minutes to a slacker.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Except Gardiner is actually panning out. Which gives us the true corollary here: chase value, cut losses.

$4 mil on the 3rd pair into Svech's 2nd contract can't be what they anticipated when they made that decision.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Except Gardiner is actually panning out. Which gives us the true corollary here: chase value, cut losses.

Panning out now after a bad first season.

either way the point being, chasing value won’t always pan out. Get what you need.