Player Discussion: Ryan Callahan - Part 2

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  1. LightningStrikes

    LightningStrikes Stammer Time

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    LightningStrikes Stammer Time

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    His production isn't even half bad for a guy logging less than 10 minutes per game in the past six games: 2 goals, 2 assists, 9 sog in 6 games. His cap hit aside the main problem is not even his foot speed compared to the other Lightning it's more the "when he is where". He always seems a step behind. I really like the guy but at this point even Erne has surpassed him.
     
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    I’d say trade him if he weren’t a big locker room guy.
     
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    Wouldn't touch this roster right now, not even Callahan.
     
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    Not like he's a real trade deadline get. He's the type that teams would have to plan their cap around if they were remotely interested.
     
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    Well, there are some teams that could fit him right away. Not saying they'd pull the trigger though.
     
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    If a team was to take his contract in the offseason before the draft, what would the package look like?
     
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    why didnt he play tonight?
     
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    I imagine because of our forward depth
     
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    Cally healthy scratched again tonight. Looking at some stats, his hits per game, blocks per game, and usage on the pk are all down from last year. I have to wonder if the medical & coaching staff have used him even more sparingly and have instructed him to pull back on physical contact and other situations that could take a toll on his body to save him for the playoffs. At this point what he brings are only a few things to be an effective 4th liner/pker, so take that away, what's he got left?
     
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    It will be interesting in the playoffs to see if Callahan or Erne sit.
     
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    AlwaysSunnyInTampa At last!! Street cred is mine!

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    Man it hurts to go through the old thread.... Now we can't wait for that cap hit to expire
     
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    What would a buyout structure look like in the off season?
     
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    1.566 mil dead cap space for two years if we buy him out this summer
     
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    No matter what our plan for Callahan is in the playoffs, he'll be a part of this team at least until next summer. Then we either buy him out or package him with a pick or two for future considerations.
     
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    A big fear could be is if Callahan ends the season on IR then you don't have the option to buy him out. so are they sitting him out so he won't get injuried ?
     
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    Agree, I think if the playoffs started now Erne would sit. You Say the last straw like the Lightning are doing Cally wrong or something. Is that your position?
     
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    It's actually 2.66 next season and 1.56 the following.
     
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    Moving him / buying his contract out has to make sense for the Lightning too though, not just for Cally and his career.
     
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    Yeah, let's trade him for his own good and the good of some other team (while spending an asset), rather than keeping him for the depth he provides.

    This stuff is getting crazy again, man. And he's never been close to TB's best player in any series. This is not "TB vs. Callahan." It's a declining player who's overpaid, but not hurting us at the moment, and therefore not worth trading.
     
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    ...That's actually a good point. He does tend to end seasons on IR.
     
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    Callahan's mom, do you think he'd retire if we won the Cup this year? He be walking away from 4.7 million next year but after that I don't see him getting more than 1 year 1mil deals if he stays in the league. He's made close to 50mil already so walking away from 4.7 isn't going to hurt him that bad and he could probably get a job with the team for doing so if he wants to keep some cash flow coming in.
     
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    I think you're very afraid that Callahan will wind up with the stigma of a player who's been bought out. Really though, it would probably be the best thing for him, financially. He could still get another pretty decent contract on top of being paid by TB.
     
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    If I'm Cally, the only thing I care about, the only thing, is finally getting to lift that cup that has eluded him. And this is the best place to attempt that. Leaving for somewhere else for a fresh start or change of scenery to re-establish himself would be a waste of what time he has left in this league if he doesn't land with another contender. And if he does find another team that can also try to get him that ring, I feel like he'll face the same troubles of finding the ice time and usage you think he should have.
     

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