RW Sergei Tolchinsky - CSKA Moscow, KHL (2013 undrafted; CAR signed)
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This, usually the wings throw a late rounder on a risk, this year was disappointing.
I agree, its strange that no one drafted him, yet 3 teams brought him to camp after the draft. It is imminent that he will eventually be signed/drafted. He has been spectacular at the NHL camps thus far. Teams probably waiting to see how badly he blows apart the OHL this year.
Freaky Styley
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I was wondering myself why he didn't get drafted. Was the most impressive forward on the ice for the Greyhounds the few times I saw him.. knew his size would hurt him but I still thought someone would take him in the 6th or 7th. Amazing skill, but what isn't mentioned is his work ethic. Hounds pucks and doesn't shy away from physicality even though he's small. Hope he succeeds somewhere.
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That may be true, but he is an order of magnitude more skilled than Gerbe at the same age
OHLTG
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Tolchinsky is a kid I'd take a stab at, regardless of his size. Every time I've seen him play (which is about 10 times now), he's done something on the ice. Sure, he's 5'7 160lbs soaking wet (and that's pushing it), but the kid has heart and wants this. I was really hoping Windsor would snag him last year in the Import draft, but it wasn't meant to be. When we play SSM, though, you can't miss the kid out there. He'll be the one creating plays at every chance he's given.
CowbellConray
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Are you sure? Gerbe scored 35 goals in 43 games in his final season at Boston College. I would consider that pretty damn skilled if you ask me.
Just wondering.
CowbellConray
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Ok thanks. I haven't sergei but I have heard good things about him.
Off topic but one year as a 78 overall in my be a gm he scored 46 goals on the third line and power play time haha
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Gerbe was also 21 at the time and much more physically developed. Gerbe is short but he's always been a powerful guy. He used quick bursts of speed and strength on the puck a lot in college. Very skilled guy, but if Tolchinsky was 6' 180 he'd be a top 3 forward in this draft.
Who cares? Schremp and Omark have nifty mittens. Simon Gamache was a scoring machine in junior (143 points as an 18 year old, 184 points the following season). Chris Didomenico put up great numbers too. Dangles and points aren't everything. Size matters, work ethic matters, heart matters, skating matters, strength matters, IQ matters. Tolchinsky might be a feisty little highlight reel, but there's more to success than that. He wasn't drafted for a reason and unless he has a huge growth spurt, he likely won't be that good. Guys like St Louis and Fleury were the exceptions, people need to remember that.
Not the same comparisons at all. Those guys don't have the same skill set as Tolchinsky. Please, if you haven't seen him play dont make these comparisons they are far off. Schremp is not even close - work ethic and slowness dogged him. He had lacrosse moves, but he did not have lightning quick reflexes/hands. There is a difference between making big moves and having quick hands/movements. Tolchinsky isn't comparable to a single guy you named.
saska sault
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Watched Tolchinsky 20 times this year in the Sault... Most exciting player since Trevor Daley (he was something to see in junior). Amazing speed, skill, hands and dekes... I hope he plays two more years of junior, he alone is worth the price of admission... Amazing work ethic and determination. Size is his downfall, but thats the only knock on him.
TheOllieC
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Tweets regarding Tolchinsky from the 'Canes camp:
"Michael Smith @MSmithCanes 18 Jul
Tolchinsky just pulled a toe drag move that made both benches stand up. Ridiculous."
"Lets Go Canes.com @lgc_com 18 Jul
Funny incident here at #developmentcamp, little Russian kid Tolchinsky wiped out Coach Kirk while doing drills. #ohno"
Tolchinsky has been quite alright in camp but his size is holding him back from getting that contract.
"Michael Smith @MSmithCanes 18 Jul
Tolchinsky just pulled a toe drag move that made both benches stand up. Ridiculous."
"Lets Go Canes.com @lgc_com 18 Jul
Funny incident here at #developmentcamp, little Russian kid Tolchinsky wiped out Coach Kirk while doing drills. #ohno"
Tolchinsky has been quite alright in camp but his size is holding him back from getting that contract.
DaveG
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Would LOVE to see the Canes throw an ELC at him with how he's been in camp. I think we're somewhere around 45 contracts so we're not all that close to the contract limit since we're expected to make maybe 2 more signings this offseason.
If this kid was 6'1 instead of 5'7 he would have been at the very worst an early 2nd rounder.
If this kid was 6'1 instead of 5'7 he would have been at the very worst an early 2nd rounder.
BrodieGoat
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people got to understand he is skilled because he is small same with J. Gaudreau if they were 6'1 they would have a complete style.
Boom Boom Apathy
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Figured I'd bump this as I see he is 7th in the OHL in scoring with 11G, 10A through 11 games. For those that have seen him play numerous times, what is your take? Seeing how he's performed in Traverse City and in camp, the guy seems to have a lot of skill and seems to want to prove people wrong about not being drafted.
Skill level is obviously there, but is he a guy that can round out is game in a few years and be able to make the NHL?
Skill level is obviously there, but is he a guy that can round out is game in a few years and be able to make the NHL?
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Vagrant
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He actually just had another 3 point night tonight so it's 24 points in 12 games. 4th in the OHL in scoring now.
I find it very strange that he wasn't drafted as well, he's small sure but he has great work ethic and great movement, and doesn't seem to have problems with psychicality. I really don't understand how someone didn't take a flier on him with a 5th +. Although honestly impressing at camp as an undrafted free agent might've been better for him in the long run
Gorgeous George
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Have seen him play this year. Only twice.
Dominates puck control and movement, especially in the offensive zone. Accurate shoot, and above average stickhandling. Very adept at lateral movement, positioning in the offensive zone, and utilizing teammates to produce points. Also very unselfish and enthusiastic player.
Also seen eagerness to fight for the puck, skated back and stripped the puck with his catch-up speed.
Never heard of him before I seen him play. Very hard not to notice this kid. All the tools, but only listed as 5'7". Defense in the OHL have a hard time controlling him, but the NHL might be a different story.
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