RW Albin Grewe - Djurgardens IF J20, SuperElit (2019, 66th, DET)

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60 PIMs in 9 J20 games this year. Any insights into that line from our Swedish friends on here?
 

VictorLustig

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Watched him play today. Another late dangerous hit which cost his team the game. Never seen a Swedish junior player this reckless before.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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We can all look at this as a negative, and when you lose your team the game, it is. But skilled toughness is now the most coveted type of player in the NHL. Every team wants players who can play physical and actually play hockey, yet there aren’t that many who can.

If Grewe was some purely finesse guy with his skillset, he would not be coveted. He’d be a long shot to have any sort of long NHL career. If you combine physical ability and skill, it probably gives him a better chance to be a more coveted player in his career. And obviously he needs to learn to do not do dumb things on-ice, but learning how to do that is a lot easier than a player learning a new type of skill or style of play.
 

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We can all look at this as a negative, and when you lose your team the game, it is. But skilled toughness is now the most coveted type of player in the NHL. Every team wants players who can play physical and actually play hockey, yet there aren’t that many who can.

If Grewe was some purely finesse guy with his skillset, he would not be coveted. He’d be a long shot to have any sort of long NHL career. If you combine physical ability and skill, it probably gives him a better chance to be a more coveted player in his career. And obviously he needs to learn to do not do dumb things on-ice, but learning how to do that is a lot easier than a player learning a new type of skill or style of play.
His biggest issue isn’t taking stupid penalties though it’s low hockey IQ and him being too slow reading & reacting at higher levels. So there are issues with his skillset as well. These dumb penalties are just icing on the cake. Not convinced he’ll even end up a good player at the SHL level.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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His biggest issue isn’t taking stupid penalties though it’s low hockey IQ and him being too slow reading & reacting at higher levels. So there are issues with his skillset as well. These dumb penalties are just icing on the cake. Not convinced he’ll even end up a good player at the SHL level.

A lot of power forwards have low IQ’s, and take these types of penalties because they are too slow to react to the play. I don’t think anyone believes they take these penalties for other reasons. Yet, many of them have been able to curtail this part of the game and not consistently cause their team goals because of it. The kid will have to learn better discipline and decision-making, but this doesn’t cost the Wings any games yet. They can hope the kid develops better habits in the next 3-4 years before he’d be ready to play for their team.
 

newfy

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We can all look at this as a negative, and when you lose your team the game, it is. But skilled toughness is now the most coveted type of player in the NHL. Every team wants players who can play physical and actually play hockey, yet there aren’t that many who can.

If Grewe was some purely finesse guy with his skillset, he would not be coveted. He’d be a long shot to have any sort of long NHL career. If you combine physical ability and skill, it probably gives him a better chance to be a more coveted player in his career. And obviously he needs to learn to do not do dumb things on-ice, but learning how to do that is a lot easier than a player learning a new type of skill or style of play.

I also think some of the penalties he gets in Sweden definitely wouldnt be called in North America. Its just pretty unheard of to have this style of player developing in Europe. So what might be considered stupid now could be completely irrelevant going forward if he makes the NHL.
 

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I also think some of the penalties he gets in Sweden definitely wouldnt be called in North America. Its just pretty unheard of to have this style of player developing in Europe. So what might be considered stupid now could be completely irrelevant going forward if he makes the NHL.

Hitting someone from behind straight into the boards 2 seconds after the play will get called everywhere. We are not talking about hooking penalties here. You see him do this almost every game but he often misses. Grewe is just dangerous, lacks timing in his hits and shows zero respect for his opponents. Like OiledUp pointed out, he just processes the game way too slowly and this is the way he tries to make up for it, that's the real issue. Skating and hands are average on a good day, defensive game almost non-existent.
 
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Lampedampe

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Hitting someone from behind straight into the boards 2 seconds after the play will get called everywhere. We are not talking about hooking penalties here. You see him do this almost every game but he often misses. Grewe is just dangerous, lacks timing in his hits and shows zero respect for his opponents. Like OiledUp pointed out, he just processes the game way too slowly and this is the way he tries to make up for it, that's the real issue. Skating and hands are average on a good day, defensive game almost non-existent.

People underestimate how slowly he processes the game, his only redeeming factor is literally his physical play. I mean if what Pavel said was true, that Grewe is physical while also being an otherwise good hockey play was true then he'd be an amazing prospect. But it really isn't the case, he's a guy with decent skills, decent skating and great physicality. Sure that sounds great on paper but then people forget just how dumb he plays, I've never seen a drafted prospect being this bad at processing the game before. It truly pisses me off seeing Grewe on the ice, he over skates the puck, he incapable of recieving and dishing passes. Grewe will put his teammates in danger with dumb passes and he'll put opponenets in danger with reckless hits.

I've yet to see a swedish poster actually like his game, and if there's someone out there that consistently watches him and likes his game, please feel free to enlighten me.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich

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Does he project to be more like Zack Kassian or Tom Wilson? (from a production standpoint)

He doesn't project to be as good as Wilson. Maybe something around what Wilson was before his emergence into a very good offensive player the last few years, if Grewe hits his ceiling. He has talent to get himself to the NHL and be an effective player, if the physical game can be used effectively and he can learn to not make these dumb on-ice decisions.
 

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Selected by Saginaw in the CHL import draft, could see him go over as the competition for an SHL spot is a bit rough for him.
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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Selected by Saginaw in the CHL import draft, could see him go over as the competition for an SHL spot is a bit rough for him.

I think it's more that his game is better honed at the CHL/AHL level. He has skill but if he makes it to the NHL it will be as a buzzsaw type 3rd/4th liner. He likes to play physical and be an agitator. In Sweden he was getting called for penalties that would be nothings on a North American team. This is a much better move for him from a development standpoint, and probably should have been done last year in hindsight.
 

newfy

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Selected by Saginaw in the CHL import draft, could see him go over as the competition for an SHL spot is a bit rough for him.

Drafted by the team owned by Jim Devellano and Osgood as well. I would be surprised if he didnt come over assuming the pandemic doesnt hold anything up at all.

Hes soooo much better suited to play and develop in NOrth American. Swedish officiating calls the games too soft for his style of play
 

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