Speculation: Rutta and Manning being shopped aggressively

[RememberTheRoar]

I mean if he can play those four years out, then it’s easier for Bowman to trade him to the Coyotes or some cap floor team.

I guess that’s possible, I’d do it now though as Keith’s value will only continue to decline.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

From an Eric Duhatschek article on The Athletic:

“The most attractive commodity would thus probably be Keith, who could be to this year’s trade deadline what Ryan McDonagh was to last year’s.”

From the same article:

“Moreover, if you shifted your franchise into rebuild mode, do you then follow the template established by the Rangers and Senators last year, and make a public announcement to that effect? That’s another way the industry may be changing. In the past, teams that embarked on a rebuild would never utter the ‘R’ word but would instead position it as part of a winning-on-the-fly strategy. Reload, not rebuild was the popular mantra. Now, the philosophy seems to be: Lower the bar, limit the expectations and then anything that looks faintly positive in the near term appears to be a win.”

 

[Rolo]

Who in their right mind would even want them?

who in thererigxttmknd,, woud even want them?...*

 

[TLEH]

If Keith wants to move on then we should absolutely move him

 

[AmericanDream]

From an Eric Duhatschek article on The Athletic:

“The most attractive commodity would thus probably be Keith, who could be to this year’s trade deadline what Ryan McDonagh was to last year’s.”

From the same article:

“Moreover, if you shifted your franchise into rebuild mode, do you then follow the template established by the Rangers and Senators last year, and make a public announcement to that effect? That’s another way the industry may be changing. In the past, teams that embarked on a rebuild would never utter the ‘R’ word but would instead position it as part of a winning-on-the-fly strategy. Reload, not rebuild was the popular mantra. Now, the philosophy seems to be: Lower the bar, limit the expectations and then anything that looks faintly positive in the near term appears to be a win.”

Keith seems to be getting mentioned a lot across the league - seems like a player a lot of teams would like to have at that AAV and real dollars....

 

[Bubba88]

Hey Stan, does the name Teuvo Teravainen ring a bell? This time do not trade a young promising player just to get rid of Manning. Manning sucks and no team's gonna trade for his horrendous contract. Just bite the bullet and bury him in Rockford.

You don't see a difference between Bickell contract and Mannings?

 

[Bubba88]

If Keith wants to move on then we should absolutely move him

If Keith asks for it, you look to get it done to a preferred destination. That's not going to be a hockey decision.

 

[Sarava]

If Keith asks for it, you look to get it done to a preferred destination. That's not going to be a hockey decision.

But it can be a hockey decision too. With his salary well under his caphit for the rest of his contract, and his wealth of Stanley Cup experience, you could imagine how valuable young up and coming teams might view him. Even with his declined play compared to the past.

 

[Bubba88]

But it can be a hockey decision too. With his salary well under his caphit for the rest of his contract, and his wealth of Stanley Cup experience, you could imagine how valuable young up and coming teams might view him. Even with his declined play compared to the past.

Yes, but even without thinking about the NMC, don't trade him unless he tells it and trade him to the place he wants to be.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Most likely the only way you can ditch Manning is a move for another teams bad contract signed thru next year

If the Gagner stuff is true a Gagner for Manning deal would make sense

Gagner has 1 yr left after this season at 3.1M so the incentive for Nucks would be to save a little bit of money while Hawks would roll dice that Gagner could be productive

 

[OTC]

They will probably send Jokiharju down.

Start giving Keith and Seebrook a rest "Healthy Scratch"

 

[OTC]

Yes, but even without thinking about the NMC, don't trade him unless he tells it and trade him to the place he wants to be.

I agree give Keith and or Seebrook the courtesy of their choice. Without them we don't have the cup!

 

[Fortyfives]

Most likely the only way you can ditch Manning is a move for another teams bad contract signed thru next year

If the Gagner stuff is true a Gagner for Manning deal would make sense

Gagner has 1 yr left after this season at 3.1M so the incentive for Nucks would be to save a little bit of money while Hawks would roll dice that Gagner could be productive

I puzzled by this.. Everyone (except Edzo) knows Manning is a 6/7 at best and he has a less money owed compared to Gagner. Unless the Hawks are receiving a sweetner why would they do this?

Gagner can't even crack the vancouver line up..

 

[OTC]

I puzzled by this.. Everyone (except Edzo) knows Manning is a 6/7 at best and he has a less money owed compared to Gagner. Unless the Hawks are receiving a sweetner why would they do this?

Gagner can't even crack the vancouver line up..

Maybe Bowman wants to bring back the junior years of Gagne and Kane i.e. Dcat and Strome.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Murph has been taken off IR!

But Forsling is now on it

 

[hawksrule]

Rutta and Manning flat out stink. I can’t fathom any gm wanting either one.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

i'll never understand why manning got two years, the pro scout who made that recommendation needs to be handed walking papers, the hell were they watching

 

[ClydeLee]

i'll never understand why manning got two years, the pro scout who made that recommendation needs to be handed walking papers, the hell were they watching

Positive that Nashville played the hawks

 

[SotasicA]

Should be trading Dmen that will get you assets IMHO. They should look to see if there are any suitors for Gus.

Exactly. Zero reason to trade Manning if it takes a sweetener to get the deal done. It's like wasting a draft pick. Hawks are in a situation where it doesn't matter if Manning plays every night.

Just let his contract run out.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Exactly. Zero reason to trade Manning if it takes a sweetener to get the deal done. It's like wasting a draft pick. Hawks are in a situation where it doesn't matter if Manning plays every night.

Just let his contract run out.

In Rockford preferably

 

[Blackhawks]

What does aggressively mean? I think that means he’s not only calling the Coyotes he’s calling uncle Dale too lol, who would want them right now anyway? Maybe Rutta can get you a 4th, Manning on the other hand is a joke just as most of us expected when Stan the Man first signed him, why do we know more than Stan tho, isn’t that weird that a GM of a team makes moves that the fans themselves know are big mistakes way before he does?

 

[southernbeardown54]

If Keith wants to move on then we should absolutely move him

If you move dunc than this team will not be good next year either.

If he is moved you should get a kings ransom for him. You put him on a second pairing with a tru stay at home dman with a cup contender and he probably regains his game.

I would not do it. But many teams would offer you a lot for him. I guess it depends on where the hawks think they truly are.

 

[Kevin Musto]

If you move dunc than this team will not be good next year either.

If he is moved you should get a kings ransom for him. You put him on a second pairing with a tru stay at home dman with a cup contender and he probably regains his game.

I would not do it. But many teams would offer you a lot for him. I guess it depends on where the hawks think they truly are.

Keith doesn't dictate whether this team will be good or not next season

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Keith doesn't dictate whether this team will be good or not next season

He could make it better if the return he gets is something good.

 

[Blackhawks]

Moving Keith would be a mistake, we keep on moving pieces that are NOT the problem, you need to move the piece that ARE. Get rid of the junk, don’t get rid of valuable players while the junk is left behind, it’s not a recipe for success...