Speculation: Rutta and Manning being shopped aggressively

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Source: Blackhawks shopping defensemen as Connor Murphy...
We should have a Powers tag because he's the best on the beat right now.
Those who don't have a subscription, long story short they're both cap dumps.

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[Mrfenn92]

Manning will be tough to unload with the extra year on his deal.
You can probably move Rutta relatively easily. Im guessing with retention involved.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

From the article:

The source believed the Blackhawks would be willing to accept anything for either of the defensemen to clear the roster and cap space.

“I don’t know if they’ll find suitors,” the source said. “It all depends. Manning is a 6/7 defenseman guy. If you want to get your depth guy now, then maybe. The problem is he has that extra year. Management doesn’t usually want that. It’s about the flexibility. The Blackhawks could eat some of his salary. As for Rutta, I don’t know. I never say never. Some people think they can turn a player around.”

 

[HawksBeerFan]

I hope they trade Manning just so I can hear Eddie cry about it on air.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I hope they trade Manning just so I can hear Eddie cry about it on air.

He'll call for Bowman to be fired.

 

[ChiHawks10]

He'll call for Bowman to be fired.

On air.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

On air.

A @Blackhawks style meltdown on-air

 

[Hawkaholic]

Should be trading Dmen that will get you assets IMHO. They should look to see if there are any suitors for Gus.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I really wonder what Eddies obsession with Manning is. Maybe the play style reminds him of himself? He really couldn’t be more off base.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Should be trading Dmen that will get you assets IMHO. They should look to see if there are any suitors for Gus.

They're starting with the ones they're going to be forced to waive and lose for nothing. Gus may come later.

 

[Hawkaholic]

They're starting with the ones they're going to be forced to waive and lose for nothing. Gus may come later.

Do you really think either Ruuta or manning would get claimed? I don't. But..

 

[BK]

Do you really think either Ruuta or manning would get claimed? I don't. But..

Rutta would have a chance. Manning no way.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Do you really think either Ruuta or manning would get claimed? I don't. But..

I think a team would claim Rutta. If you're a contender with cap space, why not?

 

[Hawkaholic]

I think a team would claim Rutta. If you're a contender with cap space, why not?

Because he is awful, and slow? I guess if a team had some injuries I could see it, but if I were a contender I'd be saving that cap space for a much better alternative.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Because he is awful, and slow? I guess if a team had some injuries I could see it, but if I were a contender I'd be saving that cap space for a much better alternative.

If you have the cap to do both, Rutta is a free lotto ticket if waived.

 

[Hawkaholic]

If you have the cap to do both, Rutta is a free lotto ticket if waived.

I just think I would rather hold onto Ruuta instead of getting a 7th for him right now. (or a lowly rated prospect). See if he can improve and maybe get more for him at the deadline.
If you can't get anything for him now, waive Manning.

 

[AmericanDream]

Do you really think either Ruuta or manning would get claimed? I don't. But..

same people said that about Kempny who was used less and treated worse...there are teams that would like Rutta, they are the ones closer to the deadline that want an insurance policy/lotto ticket like Daley and Kempny provided years prior.

 

[AmericanDream]

I think this signals that the kids are coming...need to remove players to make room for the kids...we want Krys to sign and Mitchell...

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I just think I would rather hold onto Ruuta instead of getting a 7th for him right now. (or a lowly rated prospect). See if he can improve and maybe get more for him at the deadline.
If you can't get anything for him now, waive Manning.

How can you think a guy who wouldn't be picked up if waived is now worth a 7th, and potentially worth even more if we hang onto him?

Not trying to be a dick, but I'm confused about the point you're making.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I think this signals that the kids are coming...need to remove players to make room for the kids...we want Krys to sign and Mitchell...

I think it just signals Murphy is ready to play. It would be cool to see those kids come up though.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I just think I would rather hold onto Ruuta instead of getting a 7th for him right now. (or a lowly rated prospect). See if he can improve and maybe get more for him at the deadline.
If you can't get anything for him now, waive Manning.

He's awful and slow... and wouldn't be claimed if waived, but 5 mins later you want to hold onto him to see if he can improve and return more at the deadline? Talking out of both sides of your mouth all the time...

 

[AmericanDream]

I think it just signals Murphy is ready to play. It would be cool to see those kids come up though.

sure it does, Murphy will be ready to roll...but you also need to make sure there isn't a log jam of defenders there so these kids want to sign here. I obviously do not think Manning and Rutta would stop a young dman from signing here, but optics like clearing out these guys can go a long way if you have a 50-50 feel that Mitchell will sign this year...make the kids earn it, but give the room to do so.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I could see a team taking a flier on Rutta. That extra term on Manning sucks. If they retain 50% its as good as sending him to Rockford basically.

 

[Pez68]

No need to retain on Manning. Just bury his ass in Rockford.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Manning for Gagner makes sense for both teams. Have Vancouver retain so the dollars wash out.