Speculation: Rumour, Trade and Free Agent Speculation, 2019-20 - Part XII

[Mortimer Snerd]

The thing about the 18 goal month...why would you break that line up after that kind of domination?

Exactly. I thought of that too. But I'm just trying to look at it from Laine's POV.

When I read stuff like this, that player A is unhappy with this or that aspect of how he is being treated, I wonder about the communication between coaches and management. I think that especially with very young players it should be getting spelled out to them as they go along. They still may disagree but they should be very clear on why things are the way they are.

Mau should have said to Patrik, why would I break up that line? Maybe he did. Maybe Patrik reacted exactly the wrong way thinking that if scoring too much is keeping him off the top line he will score less. Sounds silly but 20 YO aren't known for their common sense. He is still a kid.

Who knows exactly what goes on inside his head? But I can see how he can feel that he should be on the top line.

 

[cbcwpg]

They come to make **** up and cause drama.

Well, TSN is running with it now...

https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-rf...op-lines-and-then-there-is-our-line-1.1366854

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Well, TSN is running with now...

https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-rf...op-lines-and-then-there-is-our-line-1.1366854

Lol. TSN always looking for the clicks

 

[Whileee]

Lol. TSN always looking for the clicks

Well, it is quite a quotable quote from a very high profile RFA.

 

[cbcwpg]

Lol. TSN always looking for the clicks

It's not like TSN made it up.

 

[cbcwpg]

 

[Gm0ney]

Well, TSN is running with it now...

https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-rf...op-lines-and-then-there-is-our-line-1.1366854

It's a Finnish conspiracy!

 

[cbcwpg]

I remember another high skilled Jet calling his coach out for the way he was used...

"I've had my ups and downs during my first three pro seasons," admits Hawerchuk, who has compiled season point totals of 103, 91 and 102. "But, a lot of my problems have been team oriented and I don't think I'd change too many personal things I have done since the beginning."

Hawerchuk's moral and technical battles with former Jets' coach Tom Watt are legendary. A strict and sometimes stubborn disciplinarian, Watt rarely saw eye to eye with his talented centre-ice man during the two-and-a-half seasons they were together. Their stormy relationship reached a boiling point early last season and it contributed to Hawerchuk's slow start and Watt's subsequent dismissal.

"I don't like to harp too much on the Tom Watt situation but it did affect my play early last season," Hawerchuk says. "He called all the shots and you either did it his way, or no way. Unfortunately, his system detracted from my strengths and we were never on the best of terms. I suppose we can play better defensively as a team but I don't think we have to change our offensive approach too much."
"When you have a good offensive team, it should be tougher for your opponents to score," he surmises. "The classic example is Edmonton. The Oilers have control of the puck so much of the time that it's tough to run up a huge score on them. No team can put the puck in the net unless it has the puck a lot. Scoring is our strength and I think Barry Long realizes it. His system is geared towards our abilities."

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Player with talent thinks he's not being used properly.... solution... fire the coach and get someone who uses the player properly.

 

[Howard Chuck]

They come to make **** up and cause drama.

Do we really need to start dividing people based on nationality?

 

[Ducky10]

Context be damned!

 

[Howard Chuck]

There is an interview on CBC linked on another thread where he says Laine has fixed his lingering back issues, loves Winnipeg and wants to play here.

I hate how everyone jumps on bad news, but the good news gets glossed over.

 

[Ducky10]

I remember another high skilled Jet calling his coach out for the way he was used...

"I've had my ups and downs during my first three pro seasons," admits Hawerchuk, who has compiled season point totals of 103, 91 and 102. "But, a lot of my problems have been team oriented and I don't think I'd change too many personal things I have done since the beginning."

Hawerchuk's moral and technical battles with former Jets' coach Tom Watt are legendary. A strict and sometimes stubborn disciplinarian, Watt rarely saw eye to eye with his talented centre-ice man during the two-and-a-half seasons they were together. Their stormy relationship reached a boiling point early last season and it contributed to Hawerchuk's slow start and Watt's subsequent dismissal.

"I don't like to harp too much on the Tom Watt situation but it did affect my play early last season," Hawerchuk says. "He called all the shots and you either did it his way, or no way. Unfortunately, his system detracted from my strengths and we were never on the best of terms. I suppose we can play better defensively as a team but I don't think we have to change our offensive approach too much."
"When you have a good offensive team, it should be tougher for your opponents to score," he surmises. "The classic example is Edmonton. The Oilers have control of the puck so much of the time that it's tough to run up a huge score on them. No team can put the puck in the net unless it has the puck a lot. Scoring is our strength and I think Barry Long realizes it. His system is geared towards our abilities."

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Player with talent thinks he's not being used properly.... solution... fire the coach and get someone who uses the player properly.

Like it's always been? Anyone who thinks Chevy will start to let players go before Maurice is out to lunch. He knows the talent he's drafted and assembled, if the team isn't performing to standard and the players don't seem to be buying in, Maurice goes, simple as that.

Personally I think the cracks started to show last year with Maurice not getting the same level of buy in from his team. This is pretty typical in pro sports, he'll be the one to pay the price, as usual.

 

[robertocarlos]

I'm not Finnish, I'm Irish.

 

[Whileee]

There is an interview on CBC linked on another thread where he says Laine has fixed his lingering back issues, loves Winnipeg and wants to play here.

I hate how everyone jumps on bad news, but the good news gets glossed over.

It was still pretty clear that Laine was calling out the Jets for not playing him on the top line, and impeding his individual production by playing him with Little.

 

[Heldig]

There is an interview on CBC linked on another thread where he says Laine has fixed his lingering back issues, loves Winnipeg and wants to play here.

I hate how everyone jumps on bad news, but the good news gets glossed over.

The article (translated) seems pretty damning however Laine is a querky guy, does not really answer questions/do interviews like most professional athletes. He is blunt, offbeat and avoids clichés.

On one hand it makes you cringe on the other hand I want my goal scoring phenom to think he deserves ALL the icetime and the best opportunities to score.

 

[Weezeric]

Here’s hoping this was just a poorly translated, out of context, quote. I still don’t think the Jets trade Laine, even if he’s annoyed with usage. If Laine signs a two year bridge, I would guess that either the Jets have won the cup or Pomo is fired by the time that contract ends.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

They come here for Laine, they stay for the good fellowship and camaraderie this board is known for.

I came for the Laine but stayed for the Rantanen.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I'm not Finnish, I'm Irish.

Ahh, that classic Irish name - Roberto Carlos.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I think he needs to play on the top line but I am kind of less convinced that he will actually sign. I have this feeling that a trade will happen

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Do we really need to start dividing people based on nationality?

Some of the Finnish fans seem to fit that description. Most do not.

 

[robertocarlos]

Ahh, that classic Irish name - Roberto Carlos.

No, Robert O'Carlos.

 

[SLAYER]

No, Robert O'Carlos.

Ah, a good old Irish Catholic name.

 

[Weezeric]

Would you trade Connor and Laine for Point? I think I would hah.

 

[Howard Chuck]

It was still pretty clear that Laine was calling out the Jets for not playing him on the top line, and impeding his individual production by playing him with Little.

He certainly wants to be able to contribute more. I don't know if I call it individual production, but even if that's what it is, that's what you want from your team, to produce more.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Like it's always been? Anyone who thinks Chevy will start to let players go before Maurice is out to lunch. He knows the talent he's drafted and assembled, if the team isn't performing to standard and the players don't seem to be buying in, Maurice goes, simple as that.

Personally I think the cracks started to show last year with Maurice not getting the same level of buy in from his team. This is pretty typical in pro sports, he'll be the one to pay the price, as usual.

Coaches have a shelf life.