Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2021-22 Pt. III - Free Agent Frenzy

[SI]

Brock, Wally, 2022 1st, Komarov, Hickey

you beat me to it.
Brock has a NTC - doubt he waives.

Brock rode LW on Eichel’s line for team USA years ago

 

[boredmale]

you beat me to it.
Brock has a NTC - doubt he waives.

Brock rode LW on Eichel’s line for team USA years ago

You were a bit more generous then I was, even if we consider Beau and Brock even. But yeah even if they asked for Beau instead of Brock I would have to seriously think about the 3 assets I gave up(or I might even do Dobson or Wally, but not both)

 

[hunter7isles]

You were a bit more generous then I was, even if we consider Beau and Brock even. But yeah even if they asked for Beau instead of Brock I would have to seriously think about the 3 assets I gave up(or I might even do Dobson or Wally, but not both)

They need Dobson more than Wally if they get Eichel. Their defense is already thin for this year coming up.

 

[The Wahligator]

 

[MJF]

Armstrong had better be prepared to keep a disgruntled Tarasenko. The GM may have scared off any potential suitors with his demand of not retaining any salary.

 

[MJF]

A Blues fan on the main board had a great perspective /thought on a Tank trade based on what other teams are currently proposing.

"I don't see any reason at this point to force a bad deal to satisfy the player's demand. At this point, if you keep the player and don't move him, I only see three possible outcomes.

1. He holds out, gets suspended without pay, and the league allows the team to remove his cap hit. That opens up the space to bring in another player.

2. He shows up to camp with a chip on his shoulder and plays well enough at the beginning of the season to generate interest in reasonable offers as teams around the league see him as being back to a level that interests them and creates a competition for his services.

3. He shows up to camp with a chip on his shoulder but struggles because he can no longer do the things he used to do after three surgeries on the same shoulder, and realizes that he either needs to shut up and give the team whatever he is capable of or decide he's had enough and LTIRetire, again opening up cap space for the team to bring in another player.

I see absolutely no reason for GMDA to trade him for whatever he can get before camp, especially if it means retaining a significant amount of salary and/or being burdened with a bad contract."

And that's fine. If was a Blues fan I'd probably feel the same way.

 

[Satan'sIsland81]

Bingo.

He can become a distraction or a locker room problem if he's left to fester. Maybe he's not the 30 goal scorer he once was, but he can still score 15 a year...that's a problem for St. Louis because they'll be carrying that cap hit and teams will want him less.

15 goals? Come on. Tarasenko was a 35-40 goal scorer. The doctors says he is healthy. Even if he’s at 80% he’s a 25-30 goal scorer. The only way he scores 15 goals or less is if he plays less than 50 games.

 

[leeroggy]

For fun:

 

[MJF]

Bingo.

He can become a distraction or a locker room problem if he's left to fester. Maybe he's not the 30 goal scorer he once was, but he can still score 15 a year...that's a problem for St. Louis because they'll be carrying that cap hit and teams will want him less.

Or he can take the Rattlesnake route. Make up with management, ask to stay in St Louis, then walk anyway.

Yes I know Pajama Boy never had a rift with Isles management.

 

[NC 1972]

I remember a few years back the discussion about possibly bringing back Calvin DeHann after one of his multiple shoulder surgeries, and it was brought up that he was no longer insurable.
Does this apply to Tarasenko?

 

[boredmale]

I remember a few years back the discussion about possibly bringing back Calvin DeHann after one of his multiple shoulder surgeries, and it was brought up that he was no longer insurable.
Does this apply to Tarasenko?

Speaking of De Haan if we are really hard up for a LHD I am guessing he and his 1 year contract can be had for cheap

 

[PK Cronin]

15 goals? Come on. Tarasenko was a 35-40 goal scorer. The doctors says he is healthy. Even if he’s at 80% he’s a 25-30 goal scorer. The only way he scores 15 goals or less is if he plays less than 50 games.

I'm not saying that's what he'll do, I'm saying that there were more options than being presented. Worst case for St. Louis is Tarasenko stays pissed off and has a massive drop in production like that. They'll lose all leverage, won't be able to LTIR him, will still have his cap hit, and nobody will want him.

There is currently intrigue because of the player he used to be and if he rebounds that'd be great. Once teams know he isn't going to rebound his value would decline further.

 

[hunter7isles]

For fun:

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At least you are realistic about the contracts. The trades? Not happening. Fun to think about though.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

What about a cheap show-me deal for DeAngelo?

 

[The Wahligator]

What about a cheap show-me deal for DeAngelo?

Not worth all the negative press it would bring to the organization

 

[IslesRock4]

This is what I really want. Definitely concerned about how we are filling Leddy’s role if Suter or Martinez don’t come here. Dunn would be a wonderful add to the blueline.

 

[IslesRock4]

Eichel would be a disaster of a move for us at this point. Would definitely have to move Nelson to get anywhere close to affording his contract - that part is a no brainer for us - but then you’re also talking about moving Wahlstrom and/or Dobson who are essential players for us as a capped out team. Hasn’t Seravalli gotten enough attention after leaking the entire Seattle roster?

 

[MJF]

What about a cheap show-me deal for DeAngelo?

Let the jerkoff come in and keep his mouth closed.

PTO wherever he goes.

 

[The Wahligator]

If Armstrong really is planning to hold on to Tarasenko for the time being I wonder if Lou shifts his attention to Reinhart.

It would definitely cost at least the ‘22 first but he’s a safe bet for 30+ goals and is still very young. I know he’s a natural center but I believe he plays wing as well? Could be wrong there.

 

[PK Cronin]

If Armstrong really is planning to hold on to Tarasenko for the time being I wonder if Lou shifts his attention to Reinhart.

It would definitely cost at least the ‘22 first but he’s a safe bet for 30+ goals and is still very young. I know he’s a natural center but I believe he plays wing as well? Could be wrong there.

He's never scored more than 25 goals in a season though...

 

[The Wahligator]

He's never scored more than 25 goals in a season though...

25 in 54 without Eichel getting the top matchups last year. He really impressed me in our games vs BUF

 

[Macch]

Not good trade partners with the Sabres. I don't think we have the futures assets that Buffalo is looking for

 

[Isles Junkie]

You’ve can’t say no to Tank, then yes to Hamilton. That makes zero sense considering one guy is gonna be on his 4/5th team already with known albeit unclear relationship/teammate/lockerrrom issues. The other guy just wants out for whatever reason. This whole your dr vs my dr is some agent created Bs.

My issue with Tarasenko has nothing to do with personality. It has to do with his shoulder surgeries. If he played 80+% of the last 2 seasons, I'd be more than willing to bring him on.

 

[saintunspecified]

I think Pelech goes for higher that 5MAAV unless it's short-term, and that's bad for us in the long run. I see between 6-6.5MAAV being the correct range. I know comparables like Slavin make less, but he got paid earlier.

Also I don't see the point in trading for Eichel unless it's to replace NYI's #1C, not Brock Nelson.

 

[bstash19]

What about a cheap show-me deal for DeAngelo?

Nope. Wouldn’t want that scumbag on the team.