Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: "You Could Be Mine"

[KlefDown]

Blind faith? Everyone on here just loses faith no matter who we hire lmao. I'll take blind faith over being pessimistic all the time

questioning the decisions made by management or discussing potential future outcomes is not pessimism

you defend Yamamoto even though he probably will never reach the highs he had two years ago and was the biggest under-performer of last year while borderline slandering Pulju last year who has now become a better player than him. Kahun is/can still be a valuable player to the team

 

[Jumptheshark]

Not qualifying Kahun makes very little sense to me. At about $1M he is very servicable.Seatle might een take him in the ED if he was exposed.

I could be wrong but he has arbitration rights and if we qualify him he has the right to arbitration

 

[ujju2]

you think Holloway/Benson are better options at wing for the 2021-2022 season?
shall we just start a top pair of Broberg - Bouchard next year too?

no one is saying sign Kahun for 6 years but he is still an asset for at least the next 2 years

In the bottom 6, yeah I'd rather have Benson/Holloway. One is a prospect who needs to play NHL games soon (Benson) and the other may or may not be NHL-ready but if he is has aspects and potential to his game that Kahun certainly doesn't. Maybe Holloway needs to start in the AHL, but at least Benson should be in the NHL next season.

 

[Oilhawks]

Nice point. I like this POV. That should be the case for Shore and Khaira though too.

I like Kahun much more than those two but they’re definitely more suitable as 4th liners and extra utility forwards than Kahun. I’m hoping both end up splitting time between the press box and on the 4th line only when needed (injuries etc).

 

[McTonyBrar]

Not qualifying Kahun makes very little sense to me. At about $1M he is very servicable.Seatle might een take him in the ED if he was exposed.

At less than 1 million, Benson can easily replace him

 

[SDig14]

Nice point. I like this POV. That should be the case for Shore and Khaira though too.

I think they're logic is at least Khaira PKs and Shore can always be a 13th forward that never touches a line above #4. Of course, I don't really think any of them contribute enough to worry about.

 

[K1984]

Kahun may not be good but he is cheap.. Why not qualify him?
Holland talked about internal growth and settling in for Archi and Shore.. Same could apply to Kahun ..
Ennis, Nygard, Haas, Chiasson etc leaving has left some room for him on the squad.

How the hell are the Oilers going to get better if they keep trotting out the same shitty players?

Not saying you directly, but the way everyone immediately reflexes to "BAD MOVE, DUMB" no matter what Holland does frustrates the hell out of me.

I know for a stone cold fact that if Kahun was re-signed the same people calling this a bad move would be all over Holland for not making any changes. Always the contrarian view, infuriating.

 

[ujju2]

Nice point. I like this POV. That should be the case for Shore and Khaira though too.

Easier to PB Shore and Khaira. I'd argue Khaira is probably even fine as a 4th line pker.

 

[Proko88]

That’s where it gets interesting
I think any trade involves on of our RD. I would say Bear. As for Patrick, would Benson and a pick get it done?

We are pretty rich with LD prospects as well, I would be hesitant on trading Broberg. Samorukov and Jones and Laggeson would be on the table for me for the right player. I am also a fan of bringing in Oleksiak

 

[SDig14]

I'd try to trade for someone like Killorn and then we don't need to worry about protecting Kassian. Sign 2 more left wingers and Kahun is irrelevant.

 

[KlefDown]

In the bottom 6, yeah I'd rather have Benson/Holloway. One is a prospect who needs to play NHL games soon (Benson) and the other may or may not be NHL-ready but if he is has aspects and potential to his game that Kahun certainly doesn't. Maybe Holloway needs to start in the AHL, but at least Benson should be in the NHL next season.

again, more wingers-more options. Oilers have 50 contract spots and 23 roster spots. waive him if he isn't useful anymore, regardless you qualify him.


how is this even a discussion, we are talking about freaking qualifying him

 

[ManofSteel55]

Kahun may not be good but he is cheap.. Why not qualify him?
Holland talked about internal growth and settling in for Archi and Shore.. Same could apply to Kahun ..
Ennis, Nygard, Haas, Chiasson etc leaving has left some room for him on the squad.

I'm in aggrement here. Kahun isn't a world beater, but he can bring some offense in the right scenario as a depth guy if nothing else. It's no huge loss if we lose him, but unless he wants to be overpaid, qualify him and see what happens.

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

At less than 1 million, Benson can easily replace him

186 games experience with Kahun versus 7 NHL games of Benson.

How can you guarantee that Benson might be as productive than Kahun?

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

At less than 1 million, Benson can easily replace him

Benson hasn’t proven anything at an NHL level. Kahun has.

 

[ujju2]

I fully expect Benson to take Kahun's spot, but even if he doesn't it wouldn't surprise me if lack of size in the roster was a major factor in deciding to move on from Kahun.

 

[ujju2]

Benson hasn’t proven anything at an NHL level. Kahun has.

Kahun has proven he's a 1 million dollar player on like 4 different teams. Those guys are dime a dozen. Benson has higher upside at this point but if it doesn't work out it's no big loss.

 

[belair]

He has a chance to help it a whole lot more than the AHLers that are only kept around to PK.

It's not the AHLers doing the PKing. Though I would argue that you'd probably get similar offense from Benson in a third line role.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Kahun with Draisaitl GF%= 58.33
Kahun without Draisaitl GF%= 31.82
Draisaitl without Kahun GF%= 64.06

Personally I don't care about Kahun being or not being qualified, not a terrible player, but seems to be highly replaceable.

 

[McDNicks17]

It's not the AHLers doing the PKing. Though I would argue that you'd probably get similar offense from Benson in a third line role.

Half the bottom six and most of the taxi squad were AHL quality players that could literally only PK.

 

[belair]

It's like there is a cap on how many skilled players this team can play before icing completely awful players at 5v5 that can PK and take faceoffs.

There's a cap on the number of players you can put on your active roster. You also need to fill your PK unit with a contingent of those players. Guys like Tyler Benson and Cooper Marody are also waiver eligible, so signing an abundance of 'skilled' players means you potentially lose these prospects of value.

Fact of the matter is that Kahun didn't do anything last year to solidify his spot. He actually made a lot of bad plays that made me concerned when he was out there without Draisaitl.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

I'm a wait and see on Kahun.

We could do better for 3LW. We could also do worse.

Let's see what Holland has up his sleeve.

 

[belair]

Half the bottom six and most of the taxi squad were AHL quality players that could literally only PK.

There won't be a taxi squad next year, which is why guys like PRussell, Ennis, Neal, Chiasson aren't long for this roster. Jury's out on Jones and Lagesson.

I'm not sure what your argument is for Kahun. He can't even PK. What does he do well?

 

[Faelko]

I'm a wait and see on Kahun.

We could do better for 3LW. We could also do worse.

Let's see what Holland has up his sleeve.

I feel like we need to set our sights higher than Kahun. We have a lot of 4th line players when you start counting Archibald, Kassian, McLeod, Khaira.

 

[belair]

I feel like we need to set our sights higher than Kahun. We have a lot of 4th line players when you start counting Archibald, Kassian, McLeod, Khaira.

Literally.

Benson - Turris - Kassian
Shore - McLeod - Archibald
Marody...

 

[ujju2]

I feel like we need to set our sights higher than Kahun. We have a lot of 4th line players when you start counting Archibald, Kassian, McLeod, Khaira.

Add Benson and maybe Holloway too. I continue to believe that our 4th line should be built around Benson-McLeod.