Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: "You Could Be Mine"

[Ritchie Valens]

While you're breakin' down my back n'
I been rackin' out my brain
It don't matter how we make it who we traded
'Cause it always ends the same
You can push it for more mileage
But your flaps are wearin' thin
And I could sleep on it 'til mornin'
But this nightmare never ends
Don't forget to call my lawyers agent
With ridiculous demands
An you can take the pity so far
But it's more than I can stand
'Cause this couchtrip's gettin' older
Tell me how long has it been
'Cause five years is forever
And you haven't grown up won anything yet

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[Jumptheshark]

for those asking about Slepyshev in the last thread. I do not believe he has an nhl out clause and when his contract ends with the CSKA he will be a UFA by NHL standards

 

[Aceboogie]

Eerily quiet on HFOil about Hyman. Some semi credible people saying Oilers and Sens are front runners and it could be in the 5.5 to 6 mil range.

Please do not let this be true

 

[McAsuno]

Eerily quiet on HFOil about Hyman. Some semi credible people saying Oilers and Sens are front runners and it could be in the 5.5 to 6 mil range.

Please do not let this be true

Would be such an awful signing. Stay clear of a potential Clarkson 2.0

 

[Jumptheshark]

Eerily quiet on HFOil about Hyman. Some semi credible people saying Oilers and Sens are front runners and it could be in the 5.5 to 6 mil range.

Please do not let this be true

My guess is the Hyman people are feeding the beast to try to drive up his value. Oilers need to stay far away from him and that contract

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Eerily quiet on HFOil about Hyman. Some semi credible people saying Oilers and Sens are front runners and it could be in the 5.5 to 6 mil range.

Please do not let this be true

In the previous thread, someone posted Stauffer (or it may have been someone on his show) was saying he was likely to stay in Toronto.

I don't know who or what to believe anymore .

 

[McAsuno]

In the previous thread, someone posted Stauffer (or it may have been someone on his show) was saying he was likely to stay in Toronto.

I don't know who or what to believe anymore .

I hope they keep him and overpay him like the rest of the goofs they have there. Last time I believed anything the Eastern media pumped up regarding anything leafs related, Dallas Eakins came and destroyed all the fun I had for watching Oilers hockey.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I hope they keep him and overpay him like the rest of the goofs they have there. Last time I believed anything the Eastern media pumped up regarding anything leafs related, Dallas Eakins came and destroyed all the fun I had for watching Oilers hockey.

I don't know how Dubas can keep him and fill the rest of his roster out. I think Nylander will be dealt.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Eerily quiet on HFOil about Hyman. Some semi credible people saying Oilers and Sens are front runners and it could be in the 5.5 to 6 mil range.

Please do not let this be true

Stauffer said it would not surprise him if Hyman stayed in Toronto

 

[McAsuno]

I don't know how Dubas can keep him and fill the rest of his roster out. I think Nylander will be dealt.

That would be hilarious. Nylander is a much more superior player than Hyman anyways.
There's rumblings of Hall having a reunion here all thanks to Gazzola and also the Tatar rumors too. The off season can't come soon enough.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

So the cap-space from Neal's buyout will just be the buffer we need in case Klefbom potentially returns midseason.

 

[belair]

I don't want Zach Hyman at $4m. That's a guy with a career high of 41 points who's seen his offense get floated by elites in Toronto. Good complimentary forward, but he's also a highly physical player who's at a significant risk to see his body deteriorate at some point in the middle of that term.

We learned with Benoit Pouliot that checking forwards should not be signed to long-term deals.

 

[McDNicks17]

So the cap-space from Neal's buyout will just be the buffer we need in case Klefbom potentially returns midseason.

If he isn't ready to go to start the season, they really need to consider trading him.

 

[russ99]

If he isn't ready to go to start the season, they really need to consider trading him.

Nobody is trading for Klefbom (nor the Kraken selecting him) until we see what range of skills Klefbom has if/when he comes back. That was a major surgery, he may not come back the same player, or it may take upwards of a year for him to regain close to his skillset.

 

[russ99]

I don't want Zach Hyman at $4m. That's a guy with a career high of 41 points who's seen his offense get floated by elites. Good complimentary forward.

ahem, Nuge, ahem… well, 56 points before he played with Connor and Leon.

 

[belair]

ahem, Nuge, ahem… well, 56 points before he played with Connor and Leon.

I don't know what you're saying here. Hyman 41 with elite support vs 56 without it. Nugent-Hopkins is better than Hyman and also younger. I'm not even discussing RNH. I want him signed.

 

[CupofOil]

I don't want Zach Hyman at $4m. That's a guy with a career high of 41 points who's seen his offense get floated by elites in Toronto. Good complimentary forward, but he's also a highly physical player who's at a significant risk to see his body deteriorate at some point in the middle of that term.

We learned with Benoit Pouliot that checking forwards should not be signed to long-term deals.

That's a bit deceiving. He had 37 points in 51 games last season and 33 in 43 this season. Those are 60 point paces roughly, along with 30 goal pace, and this is with the intangibles and PK ability etc.
Generally I agree though that you can't overpay a player like this long term. If you could sign him for 3 years even at $6M that's fine but 6 years is nuts.

 

[McTonyBrar]

ahem, Nuge, ahem… well, 56 points before he played with Connor and Leon.

Are you honestly comparing Hyman and RNH?..

 

[MessierII]

Are you honestly comparing Hyman and RNH?..

Hyman was easily better this year. Nuge had 15 even strength points. Hyman had 12 even strength goals 28 even strength points. Almost double.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

1st+2nd+Yams+B Level Prospect for Connor Garland (RFA Rights) + Lawson Crowse?

Am I giving up way too much? Im thinking by not doing the offsheet we have little bit more flexibility on the contract and we swap Yams for some one with a little bit more size.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

If he isn't ready to go to start the season, they really need to consider trading him.

Maybe a team like Detroit would take a flyer on him, can't expect anything of value in return.

 

[Smartguy]

Eerily quiet on HFOil about Hyman. Some semi credible people saying Oilers and Sens are front runners and it could be in the 5.5 to 6 mil range.

Please do not let this be true

It’s been a foregone conclusion in the media that if he doesn’t stay in TO he will end up in EDM. Unfortunately just waiting for that disappointment.

IMO he’s a little better version of Chiasson, still brutal at just finishing plays in tight. Which is what Mcdavid needs

 

[belair]

It’s been a foregone conclusion in the media that if he doesn’t stay in TO he will end up in EDM. Unfortunately just waiting for that disappointment.

IMO he’s a little better version of Chiasson, still brutal at just finishing plays in tight. Which is what Mcdavid needs

His career trajectory is weird. He has good results at even strength but he's not a player that comes across as one that has the skill to sustain it. Particularly when he's by himself.

He's a lot better than Chiasson, but he's also a player that's currently in the same conversation as the first liners on the market. And that's incredibly concerning.

 

[McDoused]

Man I love Holland. He seems to be in on everyone just to drive the prices up for whoever actually signs him.

 

[North]

I hope they keep him and overpay him like the rest of the goofs they have there. Last time I believed anything the Eastern media pumped up regarding anything leafs related, Dallas Eakins came and destroyed all the fun I had for watching Oilers hockey.

Eakins hockey is more fun to watch now that he’s coaching the Ducks.