Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: "Wanted Dead or Alive: A Goalie, Defense & Depth (preferably alive)

[North]

The reason we traded Lucic for Neal was because Neal was the easier buyout option.

If we don't get rid of that contract this summer, Holland got fleeced in that deal as Lucic actually contributes to the Flames.

Lucic also contributes to other teams. Did a lot of that this year.

He’s not worth his buyout proof contract.

Yes I want out of the Neal contract but in no way shape or form is it a fleecing if we don’t.

 

[North]

I thought Arvidsson was the perfect buy low candidate so its disappointing a division rival picked him up. Would have been great to slot him in on Drai's wing and move Yamo down to a scoring third line.

He’s had a couple of down seasons, but he’s young enough he could still rebound.

I’m still holding out hope for Garland but who knows what the Coyotes want.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

ill guess larsson to LA too. Swede it up.

 

[McJadeddog]

I'd rather bring back Kulikov than get Keith.

Without question. Kulikov is a better player right now, and costs less, even if Keith as half his salary retained by Chicago.

 

[CupofOil]

So, L.A. gets Arvidsson for relative cheap and we're talking about the Oilers possibly being in on this old guy with a giant salary and shockingly, some fans are completely on board with it. Sigh

 

[McSuper]

I'd take Koskinen over Keith every millisecond of every day simply because you only have to deal with Koskinen for 1 more year and Keith's albatross is 2 more. Neal and Keith are both terrible and can be swapped 1 for 1.

I think you are right . The only trade i would do for Keith is Neal 50% retained for Keith 50% retained . I ask for the 50% because I believe Chicago buys out Neal .

Neal buy out would be 950 K for 4 years against our cap = 4.8 million in savings .
Keith at 50% would be 2.75 for 2 years against our cap = 4.8-2.75=2.05 savings . At that price if Keith is in over his head on the 2nd pairing you can afford to drop him down to the bottom pairing .

If there no deal to be had around perimeter i mention we can buy Neal out ourself and sign a D with his cap savings

 

[780il]

Holland needs to find a left shot Arvidsson to trade for before the expansion draft. Anyone have any ideas of potential candidates?

Preferably a similar contract: ~$4M and 2-3 seasons left. Arvidsson was a little down in the offense last year but a full season would have been closer to 20 goals

Time for us to get Debrusk for a 3rd and 4th

 

[CupofOil]

Lucic also contributes to other teams. Did a lot of that this year.

He’s not worth his buyout proof contract.

Yes I want out of the Neal contract but in no way shape or form is it a fleecing if we don’t.

If the Oilers don't buy out Neal, this trade is a loss as of right now. Lets call the players a wash (Neal better two years ago, Lucic better last year), they lost a 3rd. Right now, Calgary got the better end of the deal.
Point being, just buy out Neal and save cap space and face quite frankly.

 

[belair]

So, L.A. gets Arvidsson for relative cheap and we're talking about the Oilers possibly being in on this old guy with a giant salary and shockingly, some fans are completely on board with it. Sigh

For cap dumps.

 

[CupofOil]

For cap dumps.

Yeah, Koskinen, with that enormous Keith cap being dumped on the Oilers in '22-'23.

 

[North]

If the Oilers don't buy out Neal, this trade is a loss as of right now. Lets call the players a wash (Neal better two years ago, Lucic better last year), they lost a 3rd.
Point being, just buy out Neal and save cap space and face quite frankly.

I want them to buy out Neal but calling the trade a fleecing if we don’t is false.

I’m not arguing to keep Neal.

Lucic is still legitimately terrible. He may have potted some goals this season but he gave up as much if not more.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

What garbage is this ? I don't care what big name you are. Winning championships under toxic environments is absolutely disgusting. Is a championship so important that you would belittle other human beings for the sake of a piece of metal?
Winning makes you feel good right? No matter the costs? Including the suffering of your teammates? BS
Sport is suppose to bring people together not separate them.

Look in the mirror bro and step the **** up.

WiNnInG cHamPiOnsHiPs UnDeR ToXiC EnViRoNmEnTs Is aBsOLuTeLy DiSgUsTiNG

Go ask Steve Kerr, the player Michael Jordan punched in the face in practice, whether he'd want Michael Jordan on his team again. Professional sports isn't a feelings profession it's a get results profession.

 

[Oilhawks]

So, L.A. gets Arvidsson for relative cheap and we're talking about the Oilers possibly being in on this old guy with a giant salary and shockingly, some fans are completely on board with it. Sigh

If Arvidsson was a left shot winger I’d be wondering why we didn’t offer a better package to get it done but they absolutely need to focus on acquiring or signing 2 more left shot LW. The only other right shots I’d like to see is for one of the bottom 6 centres and whoever ends up being the other top 4 RD (if Larsson walks).

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

So, L.A. gets Arvidsson for relative cheap and we're talking about the Oilers possibly being in on this old guy with a giant salary and shockingly, some fans are completely on board with it. Sigh

Yeah if it makes sense. No one (or almost no one) wants Keith if we don’t dump one of our shit contracts which doesn’t sound likely.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

I also have to ask...

Unless a trade for Keith somehow provides us with cap savings (I don't see how), aren't we better off signing Barrie to a similar cap hit with a bit more term.

Both would be a liability defensively, but I have faith that Barrie is young enough to remain one of the highest scoring dmen in the league through his deal as an Oiler. Is Keith's experience worth more than that?

All Keith talk is under the assumption of his cap-hit either A. Being reduced through retention or B. They are taking back a boat anchor contract that we already have.

Barrie isn't likely to resign here at a similar cap-hit it would be a higher cap hit and signing him isn't a potential outlet to offload a bad contract we have on the books, the net increase to our cap-hit is assumed to be entirely different.

 

[CupofOil]

I want them to buy out Neal but calling the trade a fleecing if we don’t is false.

I’m not arguing to keep Neal.

Lucic is still legitimately terrible. He may have potted some goals this season but he gave up as much if not more.

Not a fleecing, but a losing trade as we stand right now.

Lucic is fine in that role. I watched a lot of Calgary this season and he had a lot of good moments, to go along with the usual WTF? moments. He's a decent 4th liner which is more than Neal was this season and yes, I know there were possibly health issues that caused this.

Once the Oilers buy out Neal while Lucic is still playing for the Flames, it'll be a win for the Oilers.

 

[McTonyBrar]

So, L.A. gets Arvidsson for relative cheap and we're talking about the Oilers possibly being in on this old guy with a giant salary and shockingly, some fans are completely on board with it. Sigh

How could we have gotten Arvidsson? Take a look at our picks

 

[Blue Line Turnover]

I think Larsson walking would f*** this team up pretty badly

 

[McTonyBrar]

Imagine if we didn't blow 2 2nds on AA...

Imagine if we could see the future…

 

[CupofOil]

If Arvidsson was a left shot winger I’d be wondering why we didn’t offer a better package to get it done but they absolutely need to focus on acquiring or signing 2 more left shot LW. The only other right shots I’d like to see is for one of the bottom 6 centres and whoever ends up being the other top 4 RD (if Larsson walks).

Not that the Oilers should have been in on Arvidsson necessarily. Just frustrating to see other teams get quality players for cheap while the Oilers continue to have the same roster holes they've always had and I know that the offseason hasn't really begun yet, just venting a little frustration in a grand scheme of things sense.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

He’s had a couple of down seasons, but he’s young enough he could still rebound.

I’m still holding out hope for Garland but who knows what the Coyotes want.

Reading NSH fans previously they blamed his down seasons on injuries he's sustained I think I recall a back injury mentioned, he's no longer playing the same reckless balls to the wall style, and Hynes being a terrible coach.

 

[North]

Vancouver trying to trade Schmidt already is high comedy.

They’re going to go for OEL again, aren’t they?

 

[McDrai]

Time for us to get Debrusk for a 3rd and 4th

Watch it be for a 1st.

 

[North]

Reading NSH fans previously they blamed his down seasons on injuries he's sustained I think I recall a back injury mentioned, he's no longer playing the same reckless balls to the wall style, and Hynes being a terrible coach.

Yeah, when I saw some Nashville games I wondered what happened because he’s clearly not the player he once was.

 

[The Safe Play]

I'm ok waiting to see if we do better than Arvidsson, but our first absolutely needs to be on the table for a player like that.