Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: "Come As You Are, As You Were, As I Want You To Be."

[KenLinsemanFanClub]

Have you seen Barrie play defence? Asking for a friend.

Man, some of you guys would have hated Paul Coffey.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Man, some of you guys would have hated Paul Coffey.

The fans did then, it's why he ended up in Pittsburgh despite being just amazing.

 

[The Safe Play]

Man, some of you guys would have hated Paul Coffey.

Paul Coffey easily outscored any defensive miscues. Barrie kinda breaks even.

 

[Louis Cypher]

If Kessel is coming we would need to move a Righty or 2.

RW:
Jesse
Yammer
Kassian
Archie
Chiason

 

[OilersCoffeeArtBeer]

If Kessel is coming we would need to move a Righty or 2.

RW:
Jesse
Yammer
Kassian
Archie
Chiason

Did we re sign chiasson?

 

[Oilhawks]

If Kessel is coming we would need to move a Righty or 2.

RW:
Jesse
Yammer
Kassian
Archie
Chiason

Sounds like Kassian could be moving in a separate deal (my guess is for Jarry). Chiasson is a UFA, Archie can play either side but he’d be best on the 4th line anyhow. If they get Phil the Thrill he splits the top 6 spots with Puljujarvi and Yamamoto moves down the the third line

 

[Oilhawks]

Paul Coffey easily outscored any defensive miscues. Barrie kinda breaks even.

I have a feeling that Barrie would do more than break even in the 80s though too (no I’m not saying he would be as good as Coffey).

 

[Louis Cypher]

Did we re sign chiasson?

Oh sorry, I thought he signed 2 years last year.

 

[bone]

If Kessel is coming we would need to move a Righty or 2.

RW:
Jesse
Yammer
Kassian
Archie
Chiason

Chiasson's already gone, and rumors are out there that Kassian is going to be traded after expansion, so there could be room, but we'd still need some players on the left. However, adding a veteran RW in the top 6 maybe allows consideration for a younger player to try top 6 LW. Unfortuantely Benson's already been exposed maybe he survives.

 

[McShogun99]

The fans did then, it's why he ended up in Pittsburgh despite being just amazing.

I was to young to remember why he was moved but I thought it was due to Pocklington being cheap and Coffey wanting to much money.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Where did the Pagnotta about Garland rumour come from?

 

[Senor Catface]

Paul Coffey wasn't traded because of the fans.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Paul Coffey wasn't traded because of the fans.

I thought he was run out of town, or was that just part of it, and the rest was the grifter owner?

 

[monkeywrench]

RIP Lennart. I had no idea he'd passed on. Maybe we could coax Temmu Hartikainen out for another go.

I don’t think he did passed away

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I don’t think he did passed away

no he did not, recently retired though if IIRC.

 

[Senor Catface]

I thought he was run out of town, or was that just part of it, and the rest was the grifter owner?

I would say it was 99 percent on the owner/management.

The NHL : Coffey Wants Trade After Oilers Owner Questions Courage

OILERS TRADE COFFEY TO PENGUINS

Some relevant archived articles from the time it happened.

“I said that many times he appeared to lack intestinal fortitude in games and didn’t seem to have the (guts) to go into the corner for the puck. I realize he had a bad back and perhaps that was the reason.”

Coffey, who has two years remaining on a contract that reportedly pays him $320,000 a year, said he was aware that disparaging words are often a part of negotiations.

“But when somebody attacks you on a personal level, that’s too much,” he told the Globe and Mail. “He was questioning my guts, my courage. That’s what hurt me the most.

 

[Magnum23]

If we are keeping Barrie then Bear needs to go. Can't have too many smallish defenseman on out blueline

 

[MessierII]

I would say it was 99 percent on the owner/management.

The NHL : Coffey Wants Trade After Oilers Owner Questions Courage

OILERS TRADE COFFEY TO PENGUINS

Some relevant archived articles from the time it happened.

A lot was Sather also

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I would say it was 99 percent on the owner/management.

The NHL : Coffey Wants Trade After Oilers Owner Questions Courage

OILERS TRADE COFFEY TO PENGUINS

Some relevant archived articles from the time it happened.

Damned grifter idiot, what a team that could have been for all time.

 

[Tarus]

Damned grifter idiot, what a team that could have been for all time.

He talked trash about Gretzky to the LA owner while Gretzky was listening in too. I remember a Gretz interview where he said that helped convince him to move on to LA.

 

[Senor Catface]

Damned grifter idiot, what a team that could have been for all time.

Who knew implying your best defenseman was a coward during negotiation would hurt the process?

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Losing Larsson would suck. He's one of my favorite Oilers.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He talked trash about Gretzky to the LA owner while Gretzky was listening in too. I remember a Gretz interview where he said that helped convince him to move on to LA.

To be fair, the only time I will do this, to Pocklinggrifter, McNall isn't less of grifter. I remember that 30 for 30, the only time truth was spoken on screen was when Bruce and Peter weren't talking.

I'm sure that story of the speaker phone is pure fiction.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

A handful of RHD who I think would adequately fit into our defence at a similar/cheaper price than Larsson, assuming Larsson is coming in around 4.5. Not necessarily to fit his role per se, but an assumption that Bouchard is in the lineup this year based on Holland's comments about Barrie ... Bear and Bouchard are two of our RHD's to start the year.

Gudbranson
Montour
Hamonic
Ceci
Hakanpaa
Stone
Pysyk

I am assuming that Keith is going to be tasked with taking on a rookie like he has the last two season. Unfortunate for him.

Nurse-Bear/Bouchard
Keith-Bear/Bouchard

There are a ton of defencemen available who can play PK and play a 'rugged' game that a lot of you feel Larsson provides (I don't really see it). He isn't this menacing defenceman that people hate to play against. He's a milquetoast defender and bad offensive player. He isn't more than a third pairing PK guy on a good team.

Not to mention the ton of defencemen available in this expansion draft coming up or through trade. There are lots of options...don't get hung up on wanting to spend 4.5 on Larsson...his role is filled without trouble.

Okay I'm with you that Larsson is very overrated by this board but come on. He's nowhere close to as bad as Erik Gudbranson, Cody Ceci, and Michael Stone.

 

[oobga]

Okay I'm with you that Larsson is very overrated by this board but come on. He's nowhere close to as bad as Erik Gudbranson, Cody Ceci, and Michael Stone.

I would bet Holland ends up doing a Chia-like panic trade for Gudbranson if we go into the year with Barrie-Bear-Bouch on the right side. We'll be desperate for some more defensive ability and get some guy that doesn't actually help at a robbery price tag.