Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Quality Wing Options Remains, Can We Sign One Of Them?

[Panda Bear]

We did have one. His name was Patrick Maroon and we got rid of him.

I always liked Maroon, but a prime Penner was a supercharged version of him.

 

[Smartguy]

We did have one. His name was Patrick Maroon and we got rid of him.

Think you remember what happened then incorrectly.

Maroon was offered a contract before and during that season, rumored around 3X3, he chose not to sign it, wanted a pay day. The Oilers literally took the only offer they got on deadline day for him, rather than have him walk for nothing.

Maroon goes to UFA, thinks he’s going to cash in, in his own words said his agent would call him and say “Team X is close” and etc. but didn’t get a single offer for the start of FA, Maroon then fires his agent, signs cheap to go to STL after the market dried up and the rest is history.

Maroon won by now getting 2 cups, but he likely ends up making at most 20M in his career, probably less being that he’s just over 14 now, and could have had another 10ish had he stayed in Edmonton.

Edmonton didn’t let him walk they got something for him before he walked for nothing

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

MacT and visualizing his hockey team

It was a debacle of monumental proportions.

 

[Blue Line Turnover]

Just a random thought: I just personally would have loved to see Josh Manson here, although I'm sure everyone on the Oilers' brass would, as well

I just hate playing against him and feel he still has some solid years ahead of him

 

[Broberg Speed]

Long time follower, first time poster.

I hope Bear gets signed on the cheap to a one year deal with him receiving an extension mid-season. If he wants to win undoubtedly he and his representation must recognize the cap opens up for the team next season. Holland, throughout the course of his career built the reputation as a "player's manager" who is a man of his word. Maybe to a fault. Jones signed a "team friendly deal" and now it looks like Caleb is about to receive a phenomenal opportunity with opening in ice time and responsibility this upcoming season. I guess we will see how this works out for the club and Jones.

As for filling the void of Klefbom on LD, and I do believe the two sides have previously agreed to a Klefbom rehab timeline, with a return at the trade deadline and/or play-offs, respecting player and team needs and commitments. If not they would have never said anything "publicly". There is a strategy at work here. Now you have no chice but to give Jones an expanded role and let youngsters Lagesson, Broberg and Bouchard (RD currently playing LD in Sweden) fight for the remaining ice time. What are the odds that one of these payers can step up and can play an increased role in the Oiler's organization? If one doesn't fill the organizational role it would lead me to believe all the hype about defensive depth was nothing but media driven BS to begin with.

With a shortened schedule, the complications of travel in the covid era, and the real threat of injuries, I can see the NHL allowing teams to carry extra players as they did in the play-inns and play-offs. The NHL most likely starts before the AHL and ECHL seasons and during the NHL season I cannot see why full waiver rules would not be enacted per CBA.

If waived/sent down, Khaira costs only 125k against the cap. For the center/left wing depth he provides I believe he is worth keeping around unless a superior player becomes available or Khaira can be traded for an actual asset, this weighed against Khaira's actual value as a player and the cap implications.

Management should pay close attention for an upgrade on the waiver wire, I'm certain players will be available before the start of the season and during the season. The Oilers would be wise to acquire another center, preferably a defensive specialist. There will be players fitting this description. At least half of the league minimum signings we have seen recently likely hit the waiver wire. Will any be a better option than Khaira? Will NHL GMs, notably Ken Holland, take advantage of this situation?

Finally I do believe the Oilers are shopping for one last significant upgrade, a left wing that will be signed or come into camp with an inside shot of playing with McDavid.

Ken Holland has a combination of enticements for the remaining free agents. Ice time with Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl. If the remaining free agents, who are available on the market, don't jump at the "once in a lifetime opportunity" to flank one of these pivots I don't want to see them on the Oilers. Two generational players locked up through the prime of their careers. If you don't want to play out your NHL career on the wing of McDavid you are not wanted on the Edmonton Oilers.

Connor McDavid all ready reached out to Tyson Barrie, why wouldn't he reach out to a player he "has an itch for" as his future winger? The majority of the top free agents remaining can play left wing. Who does McDavid have on speed dial at the moment and who is management in contact with selling the job?

I do think we will have to wait until the first day of the regular season for this signing in order to take full advantage of the LTIR situation with Klefbom. Top six left wing is open for the free agent bold enough to step up and play with one of McDavid or Draisaitl.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Long time follower, first time poster.

I hope Bear gets signed on the cheap to a one year deal with him receiving an extension mid-season. If he wants to win undoubtedly he and his representation must recognize the cap opens up for the team next season. Holland, throughout the course of his career built the reputation as a "player's manager" who is a man of his word. Maybe to a fault. Jones signed a "team friendly deal" and now it looks like Caleb is about to receive a phenomenal opportunity with opening in ice time and responsibility this upcoming season. I guess we will see how this works out for the club and Jones.

As for filling the void of Klefbom on LD, and I do believe the two sides have previously agreed to a Klefbom rehab timeline, with a return at the trade deadline and/or play-offs, respecting player and team needs and commitments. If not they would have never said anything "publicly". There is a strategy at work here. Now you have no chice but to give Jones an expanded role and let youngsters Lagesson, Broberg and Bouchard (RD currently playing LD in Sweden) fight for the remaining ice time. What are the odds that one of these payers can step up and can play an increased role in the Oiler's organization? If one doesn't fill the organizational role it would lead me to believe all the hype about defensive depth was nothing but media driven BS to begin with.

With a shortened schedule, the complications of travel in the covid era, and the real threat of injuries, I can see the NHL allowing teams to carry extra players as they did in the play-inns and play-offs. The NHL most likely starts before the AHL and ECHL seasons and during the NHL season I cannot see why full waiver rules would not be enacted per CBA.

If waived/sent down, Khaira costs only 125k against the cap. For the center/left wing depth he provides I believe he is worth keeping around unless a superior player becomes available or Khaira can be traded for an actual asset, this weighed against Khaira's actual value as a player and the cap implications.

Management should pay close attention for an upgrade on the waiver wire, I'm certain players will be available before the start of the season and during the season. The Oilers would be wise to acquire another center, preferably a defensive specialist. There will be players fitting this description. At least half of the league minimum signings we have seen recently likely hit the waiver wire. Will any be a better option than Khaira? Will NHL GMs, notably Ken Holland, take advantage of this situation?

Finally I do believe the Oilers are shopping for one last significant upgrade, a left wing that will be signed or come into camp with an inside shot of playing with McDavid.

Ken Holland has a combination of enticements for the remaining free agents. Ice time with Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl. If the remaining free agents, who are available on the market, don't jump at the of a "once in a lifetime opportunity" to flank one of these pivots I don't want to see them on the Oilers. Two generational players locked up through the prime of their careers. If you don't want to play out your NHL career on the wing of McDavid you are not wanted on the Edmonton Oilers.

Connor McDavid all ready reached out to Tyson Barrie, why wouldn't he reach out to a player he "has an itch for" as his future winger? The majority of the top free agents remaining can play left wing. Who does McDavid have on speed dial at the moment and who is management in contact with selling the job?

I do think we will have to wait until the first day of the regular season for this signing in order to take full advantage of the LTIR situation with Klefbom. Top six left wing is open for the free agent bold enough to step up and play with one of McDavid or Draisaitl.

Welcome.

 

[Spawn]

Speaking of Sheahan... I wonder if it at some point the Oilers swing back around on him at near league minimum to compete with Khaira/Haas for the 4C spot. Whoever loses out of the 3 ends up down in the minors, the other one is the 13/14 forward.

 

[WaitingForUser]

Funny.

The Kid was right and hopefully the Ducks don’t catch on too fast

 

[Broberg Speed]

Speaking of Sheahan... I wonder if it at some point the Oilers swing back around on him at near league minimum to compete with Khaira/Haas for the 4C spot. Whoever loses out of the 3 ends up down in the minors, the other one is the 13/14 forward.

Gaetan Haas has the advantage of being a right handed center but he only has a single goal for Bern SC in 5 games. Looks to me that both Haas and Khaira are depth players and in direct competition for jobs as 4th line center/13th forward. Riley Sheahan is an upgrade on both.

 

[DropTheGloves]

Speaking of Sheahan... I wonder if it at some point the Oilers swing back around on him at near league minimum to compete with Khaira/Haas for the 4C spot. Whoever loses out of the 3 ends up down in the minors, the other one is the 13/14 forward.

Gaetan Haas has the advantage of being a right handed center but he only has a single goal for Bern SC in 5 games. Looks to me that both Haas and Khaira are depth players and in direct competition for jobs as 4th line center/13th forward. Riley Sheahan is an upgrade on both.

I don’t think the door is closed there yet either. He’s not going to get a raise like he and his agent were after before COVID, but one year at the same money and he gets to try again on a team he’s already had success with. Seems like a brainer for both sides to me.

 

[Spawn]

I don’t think the door is closed there yet either. He’s not going to get a raise like he and his agent were after before COVID, but one year at the same money and he gets to try again on a team he’s already had success with. Seems like a brainer for both sides to me.

Would even save the Oilers some cap space if he beats out Khaira (assuming Sheahan would come in at what he was at before or less).

 

[Broberg Speed]

Would even save the Oilers some cap space if he beats out Khaira (assuming Sheahan would come in at what he was at before or less).

If Andreas Athanasiou actually was offered in the range of 2.4 x 3 (as I've heard rumored, not credibly rumored) his agent should be dismissed for not diagnosing the market correctly. I doubt that offer comes again, from anyone, unless Holland gave his word on a post NHL day 1/LTIR amicable contract.

I imagine that Riley Sheahan was given a similar contract offer to which Josh Archibald signed way back in early march. Why didn't Sheahan take it?

I think the Athanasiou and Sheahan camps played a stupid game of chicken and lost. Hopefully the Oilers made the right call on both. Perhaps one or both of these players reduce their demands and end up on the roster because as it stands currently, both would be improvements in my estimation.

 

[DropTheGloves]

If Andreas Athanasiou actually was offered in the range of 2.4 x 3 (as I've heard rumored, not credibly rumored) his agent should be dismissed for not diagnosing the market correctly. I doubt that offer comes again, from anyone, unless Holland gave his word on a post NHL day 1/LTIR amicable contract.

I imagine that Riley Sheahan was given a similar contract offer to which Josh Archibald signed way back in early march. Why didn't Sheahan take it?

I think the Athanasiou and Sheahan camps played a stupid game of chicken and lost. Hopefully the Oilers made the right call on both. Perhaps both reduce their demands and end up on the roster.

I think it was Holland offered 2x2.4, and he turned it down wanting his QO. Dumb move for sure by both player and agent.

Could have sworn reading back in the spring though that the Oilers wanted to extend Sheahan but he was asking at or over $2 mill? It was right around the time Archie was extended and my takeaway at the time was that Holland offered the same to Sheahan and was rebuffed. Don’t have a source, but Archie made out well either way- the other two not so much.

Edit: I see here David Staples mentioned the Sheahan rumour as I remembered it- $2 million. Ouch, to think he may not even break seven figures again.

Sheahan, Ennis are UFA's on the hot seat as Edmonton Oilers seek to upgrade roster | Edmonton Journal

 

[Broberg Speed]

I think it was Holland offered 2x2.4, and he turned it down wanting his QO. Dumb move for sure by both player and agent.

Could have sworn reading back in the spring though that the Oilers wanted to extend Sheahan but he was asking at or over $2 mill? It was right around the time Archie was extended and my takeaway at the time was that Holland offered the same to Sheahan and was rebuffed. Don’t have a source, but Archie made out well either way- the other two not so much.

Edit: I see here David Staples mentioned the Sheahan rumour as I remembered it- $2 million. Ouch, to think he may not even break seven figures again.

Sheahan, Ennis are UFA's on the hot seat as Edmonton Oilers seek to upgrade roster | Edmonton Journal

You do provide a citation and that Sheahan ask is insane if true. With this organisation's cap circumstance and roster needs we don't need a GM making rash decisions that will tie our hands. The Turris signing looks great in comparison. I am excited to see what Kyle Turris can do in the copper and blue. Skill and speed is still there. I like the player.

 

[Soundwave]

Funny.

That seriously feels like it's out of a screwball sports comedy movie than real life, lol.

Oh well. Got us McDavid and Draisaitl.

 

[780il]

I’d welcome Sheahan back for league min or something. We need a guy to take heavy defensive zone starts and matchups, he did that last year.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

That seriously feels like it's out of a screwball sports comedy movie than real life, lol.

Oh well. Got us McDavid and Draisaitl.

More hope this time around than when fans were getting excited for HOPE.


Hall
Omark
Paajarvi
Eberle.

 

[belair]

Now it's all about the HYPE.

Haas, Yamamoto, Puljujarvi, Ennis.

 

[GOilers88]

Now it's all about the HYPE.

Haas, Yamamoto, Puljujarvi, Ennis.

How far we've come.

 

[Paralyzer008]

I always liked Maroon, but a prime Penner was a supercharged version of him.

Prime Penner would have a shot at 40 with McDavid but you'd have to have a bonus in his deal to hit the mark or else he wouldn't be motivated enough.

 

[voxel]

Prime Penner would have a shot at 40 with McDavid but you'd have to have a bonus in his deal to hit the mark or else he wouldn't be motivated enough.

Or allowed him to DJ in LA/Vegas on the weekends.

 

[SDig14]

I’d welcome Sheahan back for league min or something. We need a guy to take heavy defensive zone starts and matchups, he did that last year.

But the question that matters is, did he do it well? It seems at 5v5 he wasn't very good. He was part of a great penalty kill, time will tell if that was the system or the pieces in it.

I don't blame Sheahan though. He's a 4th line player that they threw into many 3rd line and situations way above his head. For league minimum on the 4th line, he'd likely be fine. But we have Khaira and Haas already, so unless someone is heading out I don't see the need or fit.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I'd rather throw a contract to a vet defenseman as insurance in case Jones struggles

 

[Broberg Speed]

But the question that matters is, did he do it well? It seems at 5v5 he wasn't very good. He was part of a great penalty kill, time will tell if that was the system or the pieces in it.

I don't blame Sheahan though. He's a 4th line player that they threw into many 3rd line and situations way above his head. For league minimum on the 4th line, he'd likely be fine. But we have Khaira and Haas already, so unless someone is heading out I don't see the need or fit.

The 4th line center the club ends up with should have some decent wingers for support. Overpaid or not Chiasson and Neal could end up in those positions and can play heavy. Archibald is fierce and inexpensive. We could end up with a competitive 4th line depending on the center and a defense who can actually forward the play.

It is a real shame the club hasn't developed a pivot for that position that stands out. I think Ryan McLeod is the prime candidate from within. Great skater and puck carrier with size but if he shies away from the slot and dirty areas he won't make it.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

At this point, I’d offer Sheahan a PTO for training camp, and tell him if he can beat Khaira for the spot, he’ll get the same contract as Ennis (1mil).

Truth be told though, I do prefer having Khaira in that role.

Kassian is the only other true mucker on the roster, and imo one guy isn’t enough when the games get chippy. I’d rather not have Nurse being required to step on that role in games vs. Calgary for example.