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Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | OE L Yes?
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Coyotes won't do either, not with Neal included. They are looking to drop salary and cap space, if we trade for OEL, we'll have to find somewhere else to lose cap space.
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I’m not sure how Arizona trades away that contract without taking salary back.
As far as I can tell, the difference between Ekman-Larsson’s contract and Neal’s contract, before a buyout, is 40.75 million dollars.
As decent as OEL is, that contract is frightening.
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Context does matter here. The Coyotes are a much more defense-first team than ours. OEL also does quite a bit better in even strength scoring, and of course Klefbom was stapled to a historically great PP, and we don't know if that will stay exactly the same. OEL was also not treated like a one dimensional offensive player. He was used more like a shutdown D than Klefbom was.
I think it's worth asking how much better OEL is than Klef, but he is definitely better. Also, sure Klefbom's 4 million is a great deal, but that's only for two more seasons. Then he gets 6. I'd say this offseason is the last one where we could trade him at full value. His great contract has some term to it, and he's fresh off an inflated season, points wise. Next offseason, he's a rental, and the PP likely comes down to earth a bit, or Klef doesn't play quite as much on it.
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Arizona is just looking to save money
OEL For 14th and Russel + Jones
Drop about 4 million and then KR done after this year. Jones cheap I really.like him but you have to give to get, they might even want more but that contracts a killer. LHD is stacked. Lagesson makes better 7
If they could add and get Kuemper would be awesome. Or a great add would be Dvorak as 3c.
OEL would be best d by a large margin. And force everyone Into playing lower and getting more out of them. Also Having a good swede to guide Broberg for years .
OEL Larsson
Nurse Bear
Klefbom Bouchard
Lagesson
OEL For 14th and Russel + Jones
Drop about 4 million and then KR done after this year. Jones cheap I really.like him but you have to give to get, they might even want more but that contracts a killer. LHD is stacked. Lagesson makes better 7
If they could add and get Kuemper would be awesome. Or a great add would be Dvorak as 3c.
OEL would be best d by a large margin. And force everyone Into playing lower and getting more out of them. Also Having a good swede to guide Broberg for years .
OEL Larsson
Nurse Bear
Klefbom Bouchard
Lagesson
McDNicks17
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I hope you aren't implying Klefbom was treated like a one dimensional offensive player.
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definitely not, but he was closer to that than OEL was
But the point was that OEL is not like a Shattenkirk or Gostisbehere, where they only look great when they get that soft treatment. OEL is a well rounded, top pairing D all the way.
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And the what happens the following year? Cant add a quality winger and forced to walk away from RNH. Forced to protect 4 Dmen and lose a good forward.
If acquiring OEL we would need a much longer term salary going out. Russell or Larsson wont cut it
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paying Klefbom 4.16 million to play in the bottom pair is a recipe for disaster
if you're adding OEL's awful contract, they need cheap defenders like Jones in the bottom pair
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Oilers could also be finishing bottom 3 if we took out Klefbom
Not sure if i buy that logic. OEL will be overpaid soon enough if he is indeed declining .
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Why would Edmonton want Kerfoot or Johnsson? Have you seen their contracts?
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I'd pay $3.5M for Avalanche Kerfoot. Not so much Leafs Kerfoot.
It'll be interesting to see if he bounces back a little next season.
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they had similar usage but Klef had significantly more power play time and more offensive zone starts. And again, I didn't say Klef was used like an offensive D, just that he was used more like that than OEL, which might be surprising to some considering that OEL is known for his offensive skills. But, both him and Klef are sound defensive players.
Performance wise, that's very likely due to dysfunction on his team. And sure, there is some risk that he contributed to that, but that's just it. If everything were rosy and perfect there would be no hope in trying to land him.
The point is that we don't have any clear cut top pairing D, or even a prospect who is truly in that mold. So if OEL is available, it might be an impossibly rare moment like when we got Pronger.
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If we brought in OEL, one of Nurse or Klefbom would need to go. Neither of these guys should be on a bottom pairing.
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You can't really blame the team when Chychrun/Goligoski(who played basically the same amount against elite competition) had far better results against elite competition.
OEL is known for his offensive skills because he scores on the PP. He's average offensively at 5v5 and gets blown up defensively.
He isn't remotely close to the same tier Pronger was in.
What would you guys offer up for Laine,
I would do Nurse, Russell(cap reason) and first where they can draft another fwd.
Is that enough
I would do Nurse, Russell(cap reason) and first where they can draft another fwd.
Is that enough
Even then, you're talking about a guy with a considerable amount of his production coming off of the powerplay. I think $3.5m is a lot for a Tyler Ennis-type forward who doesn't help the PK.
I'm not confident there's even a market for these kinds of tweener forwards signed to term.
I think that 3C role is the one that Holland really needs to improve next season. Finding a guy who can make an impact in all situations. Kerfoot isn't that guy IMO and he's pretty pricy.
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I didn't say that he was as good as Pronger, just that it was as rare an opportunity, and I used Pronger because it applies to our team, and the situations are similar because of changes in league finances.
Can you really justify to say that OEL got caved 5 on 5? To me it looks like he's defensively similar to Klef, but is just more skilled offensively.
Jesus. Why is it that every team we talk to wants the moon in return? A 1st for Murray is a f***ing joke
I swear a pact was made by all of the other GMs to f*** the Oilers over
Rutherford is trying to fix the mistake he made by trading his first for Kapanen.
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