Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Moar NCAA FA's?

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joestevens29

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Faceoffs have been a problem. Rethinking my position on overpaying for Martin Hanzal.

I wouldn't. Guy is injury prone as it is let alone adding a playoffs to the GP column.

Go after Beagle or Vermette, someone cheap. I just don't see us making a drastic move to simply increase FO%.

I don't even know why people are so worried about the draws especially after last night. Was it simply because everyone just assumed Vermette was 80% because how Hughson was pumping his tires?
 

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I wouldn't. Guy is injury prone as it is let alone adding a playoffs to the GP column.

Go after Beagle or Vermette, someone cheap. I just don't see us making a drastic move to simply increase FO%.

I don't even know why people are so worried about the draws especially after last night. Was it simply because everyone just assumed Vermette was 80% because how Hughson was pumping his tires?

Vermette has a NMC. That's why i said Beagle as he's the guy that's more attainable.
 

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COL ideas

How about something around Eberle and Pouliot for a discounted (2mill ret) Soderberg and Comeau. Both Righties who would come in and help with the face-offs and with some speed in the bottom six, respectively. While gaining some cap space as well.

Thoughts?
 

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Isn't he UFA after this year?

Beagle and Vermette are both 1.75 million cap hits and are both UFA after the 2018 season. If we are talking about adding a depth forward that's good in the dot, its gonna be Beagle and we will have to trade for him.

If you want a good free agent centre. There's Mike Fisher available (i doubt he leaves Nashville), Hanzal & Bonino (talked about in depth here).

Beagle would be the cheapest option for a 1 yr stop gap. It doesn't solve the 3rd line centre problem but it keeps you from needing to overspend during free agency. I'm not a fan of giving 5 million+ to Hanzal or Bonino. I don't mind rolling with McDavid, RNH, Letestu at centre with guys like Beagle and Draisaitl bouncing between the wings and centre.
 

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Beagle would be a solid pick-up. Checks a lot of boxes: RH, decent size, good face off percentage, decent contract. But I doubt the Caps are willing to move him.
 

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Beagle and Vermette are both 1.75 million cap hits and are both UFA after the 2018 season. If we are talking about adding a depth forward that's good in the dot, its gonna be Beagle and we will have to trade for him.

If you want a good free agent centre. There's Mike Fisher available (i doubt he leaves Nashville), Hanzal & Bonino (talked about in depth here).

Beagle would be the cheapest option for a 1 yr stop gap. It doesn't solve the 3rd line centre problem but it keeps you from needing to overspend during free agency. I'm not a fan of giving 5 million+ to Hanzal or Bonino. I don't mind rolling with McDavid, RNH, Letestu at centre with guys like Beagle and Draisaitl bouncing between the wings and centre.

I noticed now that I was reading NHLnumbers wrong.

The thing about the draws is Letustu should be better and LD has shown signs of being able to be elite at the draw. Those two being consistent next year could really be the difference for us.

I do like the idea of adding guys that can bounce around. Similar to what we had in Hendricks
 

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How about something around Eberle and Pouliot for a discounted (2mill ret) Soderberg and Comeau. Both Righties who would come in and help with the face-offs and with some speed in the bottom six, respectively. While gaining some cap space as well.

Thoughts?

 

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Beagle would be a solid pick-up. Checks a lot of boxes: RH, decent size, good face off percentage, decent contract. But I doubt the Caps are willing to move him.

Letestu checks the same boxes. That's why I like the idea of keeping Lander as a bottom 6 winger, since right now our worst FO guys are all LHC. That is, depending on what they do with Leon going forward.

Also, I do realize Lander is gone next year.
 

PaPaDee

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Letestu checks the same boxes. That's why I like the idea of keeping Lander as a bottom 6 winger, since right now our worst FO guys are all LHC. That is, depending on what they do with Leon going forward.

Also, I do realize Lander is gone next year.

Regardless, we do need another capable RH centre for our bottom 6.
 

misfit

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So with another RHC faceoff specialist (let's use your example - Beagle), then our lineup is something like:

Maroon - McDavid - Draisaitl
Lucic - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Caggiula - Letestu - Kassian
Pouliot - Beagle - Slepyshev


So when there's a big draw that requires a RHS to take the faceoff, you've got your choice of Letestu and Beagle. But if that faceoff requires a LHS, it's still McDavid or Nuge, our 2 worst FO men.

I'm not against adding another RH FO man for the bottom 6, especially if he can play wing (then you have 2 on the ice at once). But what I'm saying is, in a perfect world, if you're adding a player who can win draws, it would be better if he was a LHS.
 

Jet Walters

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Regardless, we do need another capable RH centre for our bottom 6.

I think we need to find another RH C for the top 6, not the bottom 6. Someone who can play W or C similar to Draisaitl. We only have had one right hand shot in the top 6 for most of the year.

Tyler Johnson would be my ideal target for that role. Speed to burn, great at faceoffs, and plays with fire and tenacity despite his size.

Maroon McDavid Drai
Lucic Johnson Pulju

or

Maroon McDavid Pulju
Lucic Drai Johnson


or

Maroon McDavid Johnson
Lucic Drai Pulju

Any of those combos look great.
 

Jet Walters

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Jeff Carter would be a "neat" target.

That would put us over the top.

What would they want? Nurse + 1st might get LA to listen, although if I'm trading Nurse I'd hate to send him to a divisional rival. If the want to get younger RNH+ might work too.
 

Draiskull

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I think after this ANA series our faceoffs issues will be over.
Our Cs pretty much were thrown in the deep end and it looks like almost all of them have started to swim.

No coaching could have done what this series did to improve our team on the dot.

Drai, DD and RNh were well over 60% last night.. McD and Letestu were 44%..
we certainly wont be 30th team in NHL next year when it comes to faceoffs.

Drai has improved the most and can be as good as Getz\Kesler as early as next year.. McD and RNH should be 50% next year as well...Letestu better
 

Draiskull

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That would put us over the top.

What would they want? Nurse + 1st might get LA to listen, although if I'm trading Nurse I'd hate to send him to a divisional rival. If the want to get younger RNH+ might work too.

Nurse-Doughty would tear us apart. No way we send him to a div rival.
 

BoldNewLettuce

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Jeff Carter would be a "neat" target.

Ebs for 2nd
Rnh for carter + (I think he is still highly regarded)
Pou gone in expanch
Sign bonino

Caggiula-McDavid-Carter
Lucic-Draisaitl-Slepyshev
Maroon-Bonino-Puljujarvi
Khaira-Letestu-Kassian
Foo, Pakarinen



Seems like a pretty deadly forward core with experience and depth

Or something.
 

CupofOil

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Matt Duchene is like 60% in the dot. We ought to target him because I think Colorado is ready to move on.

The Oilers don't have a top pair Dman to offer for him. I think Carolina and Colorado match up perfectly as trade partners. Duchene for Faulk makes as much sense as Johansen for Jones made although that would leave Carolina a little thin on Dman experience, maybe Hanifin if not Faulk.

Regardless, the Oilers and Avs are awful trade partners as far as Duchene and Landeskog are concerned.
Now if Duchene is dealt, Barrie for RNH could be a fit although I'm not a big fan of Barrie.

I don't see them dealing RNH yet anyway. His presence affords the Oilers some flexibility with Draisaitl so I think it would be wise to keep RNH for one more year then reassess next offseason. If they can sign somebody like Bonino, perhaps that opens up an RNH trade possibility.
Dumping Eberle and Pouliot's salary is probably the main objective this offseason after getting McDavid and Drai inked long term then Chia can proceed with filling the remaining roster holes.
 
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Jet Walters

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Ryan Smyth will be on TSN1260 to talk Oilers right away if anyone wants to listen to what the mullet has to say.
 
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