Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Grosenick on His Way to EDM - Dell Claimed by Devils

[bone]

Don’t the Canes go to the bottom of the list since they’ve already made a waiver claim?

Good point. I suspect then it would be us then, unless we make a claim in the meantime.

 

[McDNicks17]

Blessing in disguise. It forces the team to look at younger options instead of a retread. Sign or trade for a promising tender who is a #3 wherever they are and waive Chiasson/Neal so we can put them on the active roster. Problem solved and maybe we hit pay dirt.

The issue with that is they'll probably never play a game and there's barely any practices with the compressed schedule, so you're essentially forcing them to sit out a year of development.

 

[McDNicks17]

Don’t the Canes go to the bottom of the list since they’ve already made a waiver claim?

Pretty sure that's just a fantasy league thing.

 

[bone]

Blessing in disguise. It forces the team to look at younger options instead of a retread. Sign or trade for a promising tender who is or has been a #3 and waive Chiasson/Neal so we can put them on the active roster. Problem solved and maybe we hit pay dirt.

No one's going to trade their number 4 goalie as they need someone to play in the minors. The Oilers are in a real pickle unless Skinner is some kind of revelation.

 

[Sanchez]

He can't be sent to their taxi squad without going on waivers again.

LOL ok I have no idea how this works.

 

[Sanchez]

Jets would have to put him back on waivers to send him to the taxi squad. They're going to have to carry him on the main roster if they don't want to risk losing him to the Oilers.

Thanks for this then why pick him up? Oilers for sure will claim him. This is f***ed up! So they can have him on their active roster I think?

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Sign David Ayres then waive him just to watch Waddell claim him too.

 

[bone]

Pretty sure that's just a fantasy league thing.

Yeah, looking at the CBA, this may also be an often shared misunderstanding of something that doesn't actually exist.

Interesting thing as well for this year is that Edmonton had more points than Carolina last year, but Carolina had more points per game played. By the logic of how Dallas was 4th instead of Edmonton, Edmonton should get priority, but I guarantee the league views it differently.

 

[DropTheGloves]

The issue with that is they'll probably never play a game and there's barely any practices with the compressed schedule, so you're essentially forcing them to sit out a year of development.

Practicing with the team isn’t ideal but still should give you a sense of what they are. Note that I’m not advocating for a teenager, but someone who has shown some things previously but is or has been blocked moving up the depth chart.

I also don’t buy them not being able to get in games, with the compressed schedule there’s plenty of opportunity. Hell, we are two games into the season and already had to use an emergency recall. Having that player around the team 24/7 is not only great insurance but lets the coaching staff evaluate and work with them in a way that isn’t usually possible.

 

[bellagiobob]

Thanks for this then why pick him up? Oilers for sure will claim him. This is f***ed up! So they can have him on their active roster I think?

Jets may have more players on their roster that don’t require waivers, that can be sent up and down to/from the taxi squad, than the Oilers do. Haven’t looked at the rosters, but that would be my guess.

 

[ShelbyZ]

Thanks for this then why pick him up? Oilers for sure will claim him. This is f***ed up! So they can have him on their active roster I think?

Jets only had 3 goalies under contract in NA after losing Comrie to the Devils, so they needed someone. Given that Forsberg was waived and still north of the border, he made a ton of sense. They have some flexibility with guys that are waiver exempt or already cleared on the roster that they can send down to make room for a 3rd goalie.

Putting him back on waivers would be a bad idea as the Oilers would most certainly put in a claim, and if they're the only team that does, he doesn't need waivers again and can immediately be put on the TS or sent down putting the Jets back to square one.

 

[bone]

Jets may have more players on their roster that don’t require waivers, that can be sent up and down to/from the taxi squad, than the Oilers do. Haven’t looked at the rosters, but that would be my guess.

Their entire taxi squad right now only has waiver exempt players, and they have two players on their active roster that are also exempt, so they are well positioned to hold 3 goalies on the active roster.

 

[bellagiobob]

Yeah, looking at the CBA, this may also be an often shared misunderstanding of something that doesn't actually exist.

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Interesting thing as well for this year is that Edmonton had more points than Carolina last year, but Carolina had more points per game played. By the logic of how Dallas was 4th instead of Edmonton, Edmonton should get priority, but I guarantee the league views it differently.

 

[bone]

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Holland f***ed up by waiving Forsberg instead Lagesson. That's the best way to summarize things. And there doesn't appear to be a clause indicating that a team that makes a claim drops on the lists for waiver priority.

 

[bellagiobob]

Their entire taxi squad right now only has waiver exempt players, and they have two players on their active roster that are also exempt, so they are well positioned to hold 3 goalies on the active roster.

Wonder why they exposed Conrie then in the first place?

 

[DropTheGloves]

No one's going to trade their number 4 goalie as they need someone to play in the minors. The Oilers are in a real pickle unless Skinner is some kind of revelation.

The AHL doesn’t start for another three weeks and there’s still no set date for major junior to return. That’s a lot of goalies just sitting and doing nothing. Teams will want to get their promising young ones on at least the taxi squad right now to keep them warm, and if you’re a journeyman who is 25-28 years old on the last year of your contract, where does that leave you?

There will be a few names out there, Holland just has to make calls instead of trying to sneak guys by on waivers.

 

[McDNicks17]

Garret Sparks
Zane McIntyre
Jared Coreau

Those are the only goalies that played in the AHL last season that don't have a contract right now. Sparks was at Calgary's camp. McIntyre at Arizona's. Coreau didn't attend a camp.

 

[Canovin]

Holland f***ed up by waiving Forsberg instead Lagesson. That's the best way to summarize things. And there doesn't appear to be a clause indicating that a team that makes a claim drops on the lists for waiver priority.

With the way Jones has been playing, I'd prefer to keep Lagesson and rotate him between Russell and Jones

 

[McDNicks17]

The AHL doesn’t start for another three weeks and there’s still no set date for major junior to return. That’s a lot of goalies just sitting and doing nothing. Teams will want to get their promising young ones on at least the taxi squad right now to keep them warm, and if you’re a journeyman who is 25-28 years old on the last year of your contract, where does that leave you?

There will be a few names out there, Holland just has to make calls instead of trying to sneak guys by on waivers.

I think you're overestimating how much a team can get their taxi squad on the ice.

Like Tipp said, they pretty much don't even have practices this year with the schedule. You're not really going to keep anyone warm without getting them on the ice.

 

[bellagiobob]

Holland f***ed up by waiving Forsberg instead Lagesson. That's the best way to summarize things. And there doesn't appear to be a clause indicating that a team that makes a claim drops on the lists for waiver priority.

Probably did their due diligence with various phone calls around the league, and got some bad intel.

 

[bone]

I don't blame Winnipeg here. They needed a third goalie as well after theirs got poached. This is all on Waddell, he's a f***ing Asshole.

Ha Ha. I just received the Carolina Hurricane trophy on a post deriding the Caroline Hurricanes. Thank you Don Waddell you f***ing Asshole.

 

[bone]

Wonder why they exposed Conrie then in the first place?

Probably same reason we did. Didn't foresee that the market would do this.

 

[joestevens29]

Garret Sparks
Zane McIntyre
Jared Coreau

Those are the only goalies that played in the AHL last season that don't have a contract right now. Sparks was at Calgary's camp. McIntyre at Arizona's. Coreau didn't attend a camp.

I just looked at Coreau. I'm not convinced a shooter tutor wouldn't be better.

Also "bet at home ice hockey league".

 

[DropTheGloves]

I think you're overestimating how much a team can get their taxi squad on the ice.

Like Tipp said, they pretty much don't even have practices this year with the schedule. You're not really going to keep anyone warm without getting them on the ice.

That’s up to Tippett and his staff to figure out and adapt to. The bottom line is you have the players in your city, it’s the coach’s responsibility to get them on the ice. Every team is in the same boat, this isn’t a circumstance that’s unique to us.

 

[bellagiobob]

Probably same reason we did. Didn't foresee that the market would do this.

Just thought if they had all these waiver exempt guys, that they could have kept Comrie on their 23 man roster. We didn’t have that choice.