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Steve L said:They must draw the 30th pick 1st and count down until you have 2 balls left and one of them is going to get Crosby! The tension would be insane.
Mtl an T.O....
Steve L said:They must draw the 30th pick 1st and count down until you have 2 balls left and one of them is going to get Crosby! The tension would be insane.
King_Brown said:Explain how that is fair? And provide hard examples with your answers also, as to why its not fair to give every team a chance, since there was no season, and no way in the world knowing what the results would of been.
The Messenger said:That fair that they where having a bad year, but that happens to a lot of teams..
The Messenger said:There are two sides two every story though .. Its never a good plan just because you are having a bad season to destroy the team .. They could also have made a trade or two in an effort to right the ship or changed the coach ..
The Messenger said:In keepiong in line with this tread .. The Caps for financial purposes rid themselves of all their big contracts on big market teams and now in turn the League wants to punish those teams indirectly via a cap system for helping out the struggling teams.. ie . Detroit has Robert Lang now under a big $$ deal and may have to let Stevie Yzerman retire as a cap casulaty..
The Messenger said:Had the Caps kept all their players and had a off year and received Ovechkin as a result they certainly would not be a weak team on paper like you are making them out to be now in the new CBA ..
The Messenger said:They did control their own destiny as a direct result of their own actions, much different then a recent expansion team Columbus, Atlanta, Columbus who are starting from the bottom up ..
Same with the NYR .. The had the highest payroll and worst results .. Not a team that deserves to be rewarded for failure ..
Steve L said:Im happy with this, the big market team lost a whole bunch of money pandering to the small market teams. The least they could do is give everyone an equal chance, although it would kill me if he ended up on the Leafs or Devils.
They must draw the 30th pick 1st and count down until you have 2 balls left and one of them is going to get Crosby! The tension would be insane.
But the there are teams with 2 balls that would prefer to lose their .4% chance in order to keep the other teams at 1.4%Deebo said:I did a little bit of math
under the wieghted system..
there are 69 balls, 30 each guaranteed, then 13 for each of the last 3 season (30 - 16 playoff teams - 1 first overall team)
Under the proposed weighted lottery:
teams with 4 balls have a 5.7971% chance of winning
teams with 3 balls have a 4.3478% chance of winning
teams with 2 balls have a 2.8986% chance of winning
teams with 1 balls have a 1.4493% chance of winning
Under an unweighted lottery each team has a 3.3333% chance of winning, so teams with 3 or more balls in the weighted lottery have a better chance of winning than under the unweighted lottery.
teams with 4 balls: ATL, BUF,FLA, NYR
teams with 3 balls: ANA, CAL, CAR, CBJ, CHI, EDM, LA, MIN,NAS, PHX, PIT
Teams Better off with weighted: 15
teams with 2 balls: DAL, MTL, SJ, TBY,WAS,
teams with 1 balls: BOS, COL, DET, NJD, NYI, OTT, PHI, STL, TOR, VAN
Teams Better off with unweighted: 15
so it's even
heshootshescores said:But the there are teams with 2 balls that would prefer to lose their .4% chance in order to keep the other teams at 1.4%
The Messenger said:That fair that they where having a bad year, but that happens to a lot of teams..
There are two sides two every story though .. Its never a good plan just because you are having a bad season to destroy the team .. They could also have made a trade or two in an effort to right the ship or changed the coach ..
The Messenger said:In keepiong in line with this tread .. The Caps for financial purposes rid themselves of all their big contracts on big market teams and now in turn the League wants to punish those teams indirectly via a cap system for helping out the struggling teams.. ie . Detroit has Robert Lang now under a big $$ deal and may have to let Stevie Yzerman retire as a cap casulaty..
The Messenger said:Had the Caps kept all their players and had a off year and received Ovechkin as a result they certainly would not be a weak team on paper like you are making them out to be now in the new CBA ..
They did control their own destiny as a direct result of their own actions, much different then a recent expansion team Columbus, Atlanta, Columbus who are starting from the bottom up ..
The Messenger said:Same with the NYR .. The had the highest payroll and worst results .. Not a team that deserves to be rewarded for failure ..
Don't think that was the case, and I seriously doubt that the trades "helped" improve their lot, regardless. How did the Caps finish, with the same players, in previous seasons?HockeyCritter said:You mean how they managed to be in last place (or tied for last) before the trades happened? That's last place with Jagr, Gonchar, Bondra et al . . . . .
go kim johnsson said:I've said it before, I'll say it again, New York is the 28th most popular place the NHL wants Sidney Crosby to be in. The Islanders and Devils are 29th and 30th.
As a Cap fan, I don’t think our “chances†should be as good as Pittsburgh or the Rangers, nor do I think it should be equal to or worse than Philly, Toronto, or Detroit.jacketracket said:Don't think that was the case, and I seriously doubt that the trades "helped" improve their lot, regardless. How did the Caps finish, with the same players, in previous seasons?
My beef isn't with the qestionable moves made by the Caps down the stretch, it's with a Caps fan who attempts to suggest that another --- legitimate --- cellar-dweller is somehow less "deserving" of the top pick.
DARKSIDE said:Ha, and Booby Clarke deserves the #1 pick. I'm sure most fans would be happier if Sid landed on the Island or Jersey over Philly. Even Sid probably rather play with a winning organization over Philly (30 + years since your last cup?). Plus he'd be playing with his good buddy Parise.
As a CBJ fan, I think all 30 teams should receive the same lottery odds. The Jackets, the Caps, the Pens, ... , have already been compensated for their last season of poor play.HockeyCritter said:As a Cap fan, I don’t think our “chances†should be as good as Pittsburgh or the Rangers, nor do I think it should be equal to or worse than Philly, Toronto, or Detroit.
I understand where you're coming from . . . . . but I still want my top five pick dagnabbit!!!!jacketracket said:As a CBJ fan, I think all 30 teams should receive the same lottery odds. The Jackets, the Caps, the Pens, ... , have already been compensated for their last season of poor play.
That said, I take exception to the "my team's suckiness is more legitimate than yours" -style arguments.
heshootshescores said:Yes there are actually 2 angry Caps fans in this world... sure there are more.
Jester said:disregarding cups... the flyers are the most winning team in the NHL over the last 30 years.... moron.
sorry... that was rude.
plus, i'm sure he'd hate to enter the NHL and get real good with Carter, Richards, Pitkanen, etc...
go kim johnsson said:I've said it before, I'll say it again, New York is the 28th most popular place the NHL wants Sidney Crosby to be in. The Islanders and Devils are 29th and 30th.
DARKSIDE said:Don't think so!
Jester said:disregarding cups... the flyers are the most winning team in the NHL over the last 30 years.... moron.
sorry... that was rude.
plus, i'm sure he'd hate to enter the NHL and get real good with Carter, Richards, Pitkanen, etc...
DARKSIDE said:30 years is 30 years. Opps, I meant 33 years!
Blueshirts4me said:The Red Wings were not going to be bad, the Devils would have still kicked our butt, and the Tampa Bay Lightning are still defending cup champions. So, why the hell should they have a shot at Crosby, without having to suffer the pain of mediocrity?