Prospect Info: Round 3, Pick 82, Carsen Twarynski, F, Calgary (WHL)

[Hockeypete49]

#100 on our list.



Link: http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/23/2016-nhl-draft-scouting-reports-91-100/

Thank you

 

[tade]

Feels like Twarynski was a bit of a reach in 3rd round but he plays for Calgary and I assume that our scouts get to see a lot of Calgary games, so again, I will trust them here. They probably really liked him.

Seems like pretty safe pick with not much upside (3rd/4th liner at best). Hextall obviously wanted to address our forward depth so players like Twarynski are good to have in the organization.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Feels like Twarynski was a bit of a reach in 3rd round but he plays for Calgary and I assume that our scouts get to see a lot of Calgary games, so again, I will trust them here. They probably really liked him.

Seems like pretty safe pick with not much upside (3rd/4th liner at best). Hextall obviously wanted to address our forward depth so players like Twarynski are good to have in the organization.

Quote from Hextall on the pick:

“A prototypical power forward. We knew we needed to add some size and grit. Our guys to a man all liked him. Terrific character and work ethic with a nice set of skills, too. He’s not just a bottom-end guy.â€

 

[Rebels57]

No problem with this pick. We add more LW depth and a bottom 6 forward with size. Guys like him and Bunnaman may give us options that will keep guys like VandeVelde out of our lineup in the future.

 

[tade]

Quote from Hextall on the pick:

Thanks, that sounds good. I am okay with this pick after all but still don't see more than bottom 6 upside, but it's not the problem even if he's your future 3rd line player, for example, then it's great pick.

Hextall has stated before the draft that he wants someone like Twarynski, and in overall strengthen our forward depth with character guys who has will, size, skill etc. Seems like Twarynski meets these requirements very well based on what Hextall said about him.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Not a huge fan at 82. Seems a bit early for a plugger. But the scouts have seen him a ton. Like him better than the Bunnyman at 109.

 

[jd2210]

well sounds like he will be a 3rd or 4th line guy, what former flyer would he remind you of.

I don't know about former, but when I was messing around youtube today I found a video where he was asked what player he most closely resembled and he said Ryan White (5 days before the draft).

 

[Striiker]

To put this into perspective, he easily outscored Taylor Leier when comparing their draft years, and I think most would agree that Leier has turned into a decent prospect.

Leier - 37 points in 72 games.

Twarynski - 45 points in 67 games

Don't judge these guys too soon, they're not done improving yet.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

To put this into perspective, he easily outscored Taylor Leier when comparing their draft years, and I think most would agree that Leier has turned into a decent prospect.

Leier - 37 points in 72 games.

Twarynski - 45 points in 67 games

Don't judge these guys too soon, they're not done improving yet.

Good point and I think Leier is what you're hoping for, though they got Leier at 117.

 

[Curufinwe]

Likely because Leier is much smaller.

 

[Striiker]

And for all we know Twarynski could end up being 35 draft spots worth of skill better than Leier.

Based on his comments, Hextall seems to think there's more skill to him than he's shown... Whether he's right or wrong is yet to be known, but we do know Hextall wasn't just aiming low with this pick.

 

[Stizzle]

To put this into perspective, he easily outscored Taylor Leier when comparing their draft years, and I think most would agree that Leier has turned into a decent prospect.

Leier - 37 points in 72 games.

Twarynski - 45 points in 67 games

Don't judge these guys too soon, they're not done improving yet.

Leier played on a real powerhouse team in his draft year and was a bit buried down the lineup.

Carsen was on a team this year that desperately needed forwards who could score. That prime ice time was there for the taking.

I think that's the key difference for me. His scoring may come, I just haven't seen it. And I saw firsthand how badly the Calgary forward group would struggle to produce offense at times. Even with the extreme luxury of having Jake Bean and Travis Sanheim feeding them pucks all the time.

 

[Striiker]

Leier played on a real powerhouse team in his draft year and was a bit buried down the lineup.

Carsen was on a team this year that desperately needed forwards who could score. That prime ice time was there for the taking.

I think that's the key difference for me. His scoring may come, I just haven't seen it. And I saw firsthand how badly the Calgary forward group would struggle to produce offense at times. Even with the extreme luxury of having Jake Bean and Travis Sanheim feeding them pucks all the time.

You may be absolutely right, I'm just saying that judging these players strictly on points isnt a good idea.

Now if someone, like yourself, has doubts about a player that's based on watching a ton of their games, that's a different story.

 

[Stizzle]

You may be absolutely right, I'm just saying that judging these players strictly on points isnt a good idea.

Now if someone, like yourself, has doubts about a player that's based on watching a ton of their games, that's a different story.

Yeah, I definitely don't want to make it seem like I'm burying the pick, I'm not. He has flashed some offense. And he has value. He's just more of your traditional bottom 6 style of player IMO.

 

[FLYguy3911]

He did outplay Beck Malenstyn who was regarded as a much better prospect going into the year so I'll count that as something.

Calgary should be a good team next year. They return a good chunk of their team and I think he should be seeing prime minutes next season. PPG should be the goal. As a late 97 he'll have to prove he's ready for pro hockey next year.

 

[BackWithaVengeance]

Really like the comment from Hextall "He's not just a bottom-end guy".

They truly know why the picked him when they followed the Hitmen the whole season.

What a difference it makes when you go for hard-working PF's with untapped potential in the 3rd round instead of the Garret Klotz's of the world.

Refreshing.

 

[SheasRebellion6]

It is interesting that he models himself after Ryan White and compares himself to goul with a lesser fighting ability. By the way, not that it matters, but I'm pretty sure Brandon Dubinsky could take this kid.

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

It is interesting that he models himself after Ryan White and compares himself to goul with a lesser fighting ability. By the way, not that it matters, but I'm pretty sure Brandon Dubinsky could take this kid.

checked out his "fights" on youtube...in 2 out of 3 he got hammered.

 

[Magua]

It is interesting that he models himself after Ryan White and compares himself to goul with a lesser fighting ability

.............yay



Fun fact, Ryan White put up 53 points in 72 games his draft year on Calgary. And 89 points in 72 games his d+1 year. He can't hold a handle to Twarynski skating-wise though. Hopefully he's smarter than White too. White is actually quite decently skilled for a 4th line grinder -- he just has lead feet and low hockey IQ. Comparing him to White somehow doesn't make me feel any better....

 

[CutOnDime97]

This is probably the pick I'm least excited about.

But what the hell do I know.

Our scouts watched Calgary all season with Sanheim and Fazleev playing there. Guess I'll trust them.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

This is probably the pick I'm least excited about.

But what the hell do I know.

Our scouts watched Calgary all season with Sanheim and Fazleev playing there. Guess I'll trust them.

I feel the same way. Seems like a bit of a reach for 82 where, you know, you hope for the Ghost gem. But the scouts have certainly seen enough of him where he must be likable.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

checked out his "fights" on youtube...in 2 out of 3 he got hammered.

I went there too hoping to find some clips on him but only came across fights. He pretty much got worked in all of them.

On another note came across some of Allison's too. Now he can actually handle himself well.

 

[Chuck Downie]

2 goals including the GWG in Kelowna's first playoff game versus Kamloops. Slow start with Kelowna after being acquired from Calgary but finished the regular season strong with 15 pts in his last 13 games.

 

[hatcher]

Agressive forechecker willing to stand up for teammates that is rugged.

 

[deadhead]

You need guys like this to finish out lines, espeically if they have good hands and a deadly wrist shot near the net. You can't build a good line around three playmakers who like to skate, someone has to be willing to live in the crease and do the dirty work as a forechecker.

And if you're building a 4th line, you want guys who can forecheck and actually give you 10-15 goals a year.

When you look at the cost of bottom six guys who can do that (Weise the two years before we signed him), it's not a bad idea to stockpile these guys alongside the flashier forwards.