Speculation: Roster Speculation Part VI: The Trade Deadline Approaches

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  1. Reddawg

    Reddawg We're all mad here

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    I don't see why they would let him go. If they did, it would cost more than that.
     
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    SnuggaRUDE Registered User

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    Good lord no. NO NO NO NOOOOOOO

    No-No-No-NoNoNo *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
     
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  3. Jim Bob

    Jim Bob Let's go, Buffalo!

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    I'm just curious about what your scale is.

    At least year's trade deadline, he only made one trade. That was on the low end when you look around the league.

    Every GM makes some moves. I would look at Botts' track record and say that he is on the less active end of the range when comparing what other GMs do.
     
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    There's only been 40 trades since the season started involving a player.
     
  5. Sabre the Win

    Sabre the Win #FreeAlex

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    The problem is the win streak which has completely saved Housley mid season, I also have a feeling that he will be here next year as well because I don't feel like Botterill feels like his hands are warm enough yet from sitting on them.
     
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    ZZamboni Puttin' on the Foil

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    Perhaps you’re right. Perhaps he is less active than other GM’s. I have not nor will I take the time to look at 30 other GM’s and all of their moves over the same time that JB has been hired as the Sabres GM. To compare them. It took me long enough to look up JB and all his activity and figure out how to post it all in a format on this forum. Because I never do it. Others post that kind of stuff here all the time and they’re much better at it and much quicker at it. If I sat and compared 30 other GM’s, to see the frequency of their activity versus JB’s activity, it would literally take me days and days. Others maybe it would take an hour. I’m not gonna waste my time on that :dunno:

    Just looking at his body of work since he’s been hired, in my opinion, There’s no concern to think that he has made zero moves or will make zero moves. Which is the original sentence I was addressing from another poster. That single sentence. Not the nuance of the word “active”.
     
  7. Jim Bob

    Jim Bob Let's go, Buffalo!

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    He made one trade at the TDL last year.

    He might make a deal or two.

    But, I won't be surprised if he sits on his hands since he doesn't want to buy a rental and he doesn't have much to sell, especially if Skinner won't waive.
     
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    Again, I'll chalk up the deadline as a win if Botterill can move out at least one of the guys on bad contracts for next season (Scandella, Bogo, Sobotka). The Bogo ship may have sailed with his most recent injury, though. Frankly, I'm not expecting much. Maybe he trades Girgensons or Larsson to a team looking for some PK help, and in exchange he gets an AHL player with a little upside but no long-term future in his current organization - a Danny O'Regan type, perhaps. Maybe he ships out Beaulieu for a 5th or a 6th. But I don't expect much beyond that.
     
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    I kind of wonder, with the trajectory of this season and Skinner still unsigned... he’s getting traded, isn’t he?
     
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    Don't worry, from a factual standpoint you're correct. He's made 3 trades this season out of a league wide 40 moves involving players. From an emotional view point, some people will agree with you, and some won't. C'est la vive.
     
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    Doesn't he need to wait until the trade deadline to sign?
     
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    I'd put it at 80%-20% that he signs it after the deadline to get the 8th year versus traded and then resigned 7/1
     
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    Reddawg We're all mad here

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    That’s my assumption as well, they’re just waiting to be able to add Year 8.
     
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    Chainshot Give 'em Enough Rope Sponsor

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    I have a fear that he has solidly slotted 4th liners who he could maintain for decent cost control going forward for the usual junk trade returns he has landed so far in shuffling out Murray drafted/acquired players in the recent past. Is moving Larry or Gus for pocket lint a win? I don't. And yet I fear that's what he's going to do as a path to clear spots for the younger players.
     
  15. Der Jaeger

    Der Jaeger Casmus Eichelainenhart

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    I'd like to see him move out dead weight and let the kids play too. As for O'Regan, I'd like to see him up with the Sabres.
     
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    What do you think the cost would be?
     
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    Sure, if you add Mitts and another first
     
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    Wow he must be better than I thought.**** I thought he was a great defensive defensive with a little offensive upside.Ok..
     
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    Chainshot Give 'em Enough Rope Sponsor

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    And if they can't move the dross, then at least mandate elevating the kids for a time and working them into important minutes. Heaven knows they've hamfisted away the benefits of the winning streak and still don't have a handle on what the kids can do in key roles. Would it kill them to put Smith into the lineup and have him PK? Or O'Regan in a depth role? Or Olofsson in a 2nd PP role (in a forehand shooting spot that benefits his skills)?
     
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    He's reeeeeealgood. Any stat issues this season are because Carlyle and that team are both a sh!t-show.
     
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    Move Scandella and Beaulieu out, as they have some value to teams in contention. If Botterill can move Bogosian and/or Sobotka without adding more dead weight or keeping too much contract, that's fine too. Move Pominville to the best possible team, with salary retention, to give him the best shot at winning.

    Then re-sign Skinner and go with the kids.

    Skinner - Eichel - Olofsson
    Sheary - Mittelstadt - Reinhart
    Smith - ERod - Thompson
    Girgensons - Larsson - Okposo

    McCabe - Dahlin
    Pilut - Ristolainen
    Guhle - Nelson

    Hope to finish the year on a kid-inspiring run to 9th place. Then send everyone to Rochester and win the Calder Cup
     
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    tbh I think from Botts perspective Phil was safe this season if the team made any improvement at all. Unfortunately it would probably take a disaster for Phil to be fired in season two of Botts rebooted rebuild. There seems to be no urgency at all to win any time in the near future.
     
  23. Der Jaeger

    Der Jaeger Casmus Eichelainenhart

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    Thinking about a Ristolainen trade.... I'm not for trading him, but put some thought to it just because.

    To the Kings for Kupari, Grundstrom, and Toronto's first?

    That's plug a lot of organizational holes. Sabres would need a stop gap at RD until Borgen is ready, and might have to get Dahlin to play the right side more.
     
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    Yes.
     
  25. Jim Bob

    Jim Bob Let's go, Buffalo!

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    He's got a NMC that he would have to waive first.
     
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