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No I did not. They are not good enough.
If Buffalo wants to win, play with the best players.
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No I did not. They are not good enough.
If Buffalo wants to win, play with the best players.
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That's an unfair comparison, though. Try the same with Ovechkin/Backstrom from the Caps, it's the opposite
Why is the first comparison unfair? Most would agree on pure talent Getzlaf and Perry are pretty close in pure talent. On the other hand your comparison is a much more extreme version of talent differences.
How bout this, how many centers would you take before the best winger in the game? Call it Ovechkin, Perry, Nash, Hall, whoever.
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Yet, they put their names behind what they say. You go on the other hand, post behind an alias and call them idiots. You have far, far less credibility than they do. And you do realize the NHL is an entertainment business, right? Calling things flashy as a derogatory statement is amusing. You love to say it.
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I wouldn't agree that at G-P evaluation at all, frankly. I picked O-B because I thought it was a similar disparity.
This year? Voracek before everyone~. In seriousness, it's tough to answer that question because my metrics will be different than yours
When defending terrible sports writers goes wrong. If the NHL is all about entertainment, why does the boring grinding smart team play thing seem to win so much?
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The NHL mismanages its own product and it's content with being the little brother league tbh
I don't understand. Do you think there is a similar gap in talent between the two pairs or that the initial assessment that Anaheim would be worse without Getzlaf than without Perry was wrong.
And ya if you would rather have Voracek than any center in the league we have different metrics.
Selling its product and entertaining people is one thing, I'm referring to what actually wins hockey games. Unless your suggesting the NHL should over-haul its rules and officiating standards to make the game drastically different in how its played.
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Getzlaf>Perry in a similar fashion to Ovechkin>Backstrom imo
voracek was a joke. but I'm not sure what standard you want me to apply in that top players comparison. Talent? Production? Actual on-ice contribution?
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I'm not sure that there is much evidence that Backstrom has put together anything close to the career that Perry has.
The standard I would use would be is who wins you games, who consistently causes more goals to be scored for than against, more possession time, more control of games. They all come down to having a complete game that strongly affects offense, defense and transition.
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Backstrom's had a pretty strong start to his career, but he's no Ovechkin. I think he's a better overall player than Perry tbh, but so is OV to Getz
Well you're saying wins games, but in a vacuum or in actuality? In a vacuum crosby would always be #1 based on skill but in practical application his missed time makes other players have a greater impact in quantifiable contribution
like this year I'd argue Tyler Seguin could very well be called the best skater in the league, but I'm not sure I'd take him before XYZ
Well you're saying wins games, but in a vacuum or in actuality? In a vacuum crosby would always be #1 based on skill but in practical application his missed time makes other players have a greater impact in quantifiable contribution
like this year I'd argue Tyler Seguin could very well be called the best skater in the league, but I'm not sure I'd take him before XYZ
I wouldn't worry about who has injuries or not, it could happen to anybody. I am very curious as to what Backstrom has done as a player makes you think he is better than Perry? Care to explain that a little more.
Nearly a 3rd? In the post season? Lol
The evidence shows kovy was a net negative.
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I was speaking on average, where average penalty time exceeds 20m in recent years.
It's a net negative to you.
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Despite being two years younger, Backstrom has four top-ten adjusted points finishes to perry's two. I feel like Perry, and all high end goal scorers, get underrated relative to elite playmakers, but Backstrom has five top-five assist seasons relative to Perry's two top-five goal scoring seasons. Further, Backstrom has a very underrated defensive game, not quite in the selke conversation but perhaps deserving to be. It's undeniable that each player gains from playing with a superior teammate, but I feel Backstrom has shown more in that scenario.
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That's because Ovechkin is one of the best players in the league. Perry/Getzlaf are very close.
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Strongly disagree. Perry is a 50 goal scoring hart trophy winner. I take him over Backstrom every day of the week.
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A one dimensional scoring winger over a two-way ppg center?
do you think the postseason lasts for 50+ games
A one dimensional scoring winger over a two-way ppg center?
do you think the postseason lasts for 50+ games
perry isn't one dimensional. He's also massive, nasty and physical. He's not Hodgson.
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