Speculation: Roster Speculation 2013-14

[Beerz]

Tropp needs to learn to better avoid getting drilled or his career will not last very long. He seems to get hammered at least 4 times a game.

He was ready to drop the gloves against the Leafs on Friday after being hit then realized he still had his face shield on lol

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

Spoken like someone who has not watched a single Rochester Amerks game.

Your statement infers you have...

I haven't watched one and would love an update. Can you give us a heads up of your top 5?

 

[Chainshot]

Given some of the comments by the new management, I wonder if the Sabres begin targeting younger players in acquisition rather than simply continuing to stockpile heaps of draft picks.

 

[SabresFan26]

Given some of the comments by the new management, I wonder if the Sabres begin targeting younger players in acquisition rather than simply continuing to stockpile heaps of draft picks.

I certainly hope so. I think we need to. Guys from the last 3-4 drafts who are on deep playoff teams and need a chance to breakout with a rebuilding team (i.e. Buffalo)

 

[Djp]

Given some of the comments by the new management, I wonder if the Sabres begin targeting younger players in acquisition rather than simply continuing to stockpile heaps of draft picks.

When you say younger players.....are you talking about prospects or younger NHL players who are 25 or younger playing now with the NHL club?


The fact is some teams just wont trade their prospects but they are willing to trade their picks.

 

[TehDoak]

Given some of the comments by the new management, I wonder if the Sabres begin targeting younger players in acquisition rather than simply continuing to stockpile heaps of draft picks.

If Ott, Moulson, Miller, and Tallinder are all off roster, we are going to have to pick up some salary to hit the floor. I suspect it will be via trade and probably overpaying some mid level UFAs (Bolland and Orpik fit the bill)

 

[Jim Bob]

If Ott, Moulson, Miller, and Tallinder are all off roster, we are going to have to pick up some salary to hit the floor. I suspect it will be via trade and probably overpaying some mid level UFAs (Bolland and Orpik fit the bill)

Derek Roy and his $4M are languishing in St Louis.

 

[Moskau]

Barring any setbacks Mike Weber should be cleared sometime today or tomorrow so I'm guessing Zadorov should be back in London shortly.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

‏@BuffaloSabres

Nolan said may be some roster moves soon. A few playing well w/ #Amerks may deserve a shot, want to put people "in a position for success."

 

[Moskau]

‏@BuffaloSabres

Nolan said may be some roster moves soon. A few playing well w/ #Amerks may deserve a shot, want to put people "in a position for success."

Adam up possibly Kaleta, Larsson down possibly Girgensons. Would be my guess.

 

[sabresfan129103]

‏@BuffaloSabres

Nolan said may be some roster moves soon. A few playing well w/ #Amerks may deserve a shot, want to put people "in a position for success."

I'm assuming this says "We're calling up Luke Adam" without actually saying it.

 

[BuzzKillington90]

Adam up possibly Kaleta, Larsson down possibly Girgensons. Would be my guess.

I doubt girgensons moves, more likely grigorenko is sent down to juniors then that.

 

[Moskau]

I doubt girgensons moves, more likely grigorenko is sent down to juniors then that.

Thought so as well but I'm not sure how much planning needs to go into that.

 

[AirBriere48]

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 5m
Nolan, "I didn't realize how young they really were. There's some maneuvering room we can do here,

Nolan, "There's a couple of players going well down there that deserve an opportunity." He doesn't believe in force feeding young players

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 2m
"Some of these guys haven't matured into their bodies yet.You see good organizations and how they go about it you don't force feed somebody

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 2m
how you rebuild is important . You can have a few young kids, but not as many as we have."

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Sounds like he's referring to Grigs with his comment about guys not yet maturing into their bodies. I bet he goes down to juniors and Adam comes up. Zadorov I bet also goes down once Weber is healthy.

 

[haseoke39]

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 5m
Nolan, "I didn't realize how young they really were. There's some maneuvering room we can do here,

Nolan, "There's a couple of players going well down there that deserve an opportunity." He doesn't believe in force feeding young players

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 2m
"Some of these guys haven't matured into their bodies yet.You see good organizations and how they go about it you don't force feed somebody

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717 2m
how you rebuild is important . You can have a few young kids, but not as many as we have."

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Sounds like he's referring to Grigs with his comment about guys not yet maturing into their bodies. I bet he goes down to juniors and Adam comes up. Zadorov I bet also goes down once Weber is healthy.

As long as Grigs is sent down with clear instructions and someone from the team is keeping up with him. He needs to know his NHL career is on the line, depending on how hard he works to become a complete player.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

@pham1717

Nolan, "I didn't realize how young they really were. There's some maneuvering room we can do here,

@pham1717

Nolan, "There's a couple of players going well down there that deserve an opportunity." He doesn't believe in force feeding young players

"Some of these guys haven't matured into their bodies yet.You see good organizations and how they go about it you don't force feed somebody

"how you rebuild is important . You can have a few young kids, but not as many as we have."

 

[SabresFan26]

I imagine Zadorov is back to London, Larsson down to the Amerks, a veteran Amerk (maybe Kaleta or Porter) back up, the darkhorse decisions are Risto and Grigs. I imagine Girgensons and Risto remain with the team and Grigorenko is sent somewhere (maybe Amerks on conditioning or back to Quebec)

So conclusion,

Zadorov --> London OHL
Larsson --> Rochester AHL
Grigorenko --> Quebec QMJHL
Kaleta/Porter --> Buffalo NHL

 

[26CornerBlitz]

I imagine Zadorov is back to London, Larsson down to the Amerks, a veteran Amerk (maybe Kaleta or Porter) back up, the darkhorse decisions are Risto and Grigs. I imagine Girgensons and Risto remain with the team and Grigorenko is sent somewhere (maybe Amerks on conditioning or back to Quebec)

So conclusion,

Zadorov --> London OHL
Larsson --> Rochester AHL
Grigorenko --> Quebec QMJHL
Kaleta/Porter --> Buffalo NHL

Porter is just off the injury list. He won't be called up. LaFontaine talked about Kaleta needing to adjust his game...doubt he's called up any time soon.

Can't see what benefit Grigs gets from being back in the Q.

Agree with your Zads and maybe the Larsson to Roch moves.

 

[jc17]

I imagine Zadorov is back to London, Larsson down to the Amerks, a veteran Amerk (maybe Kaleta or Porter) back up, the darkhorse decisions are Risto and Grigs. I imagine Girgensons and Risto remain with the team and Grigorenko is sent somewhere (maybe Amerks on conditioning or back to Quebec)

So conclusion,

Zadorov --> London OHL
Larsson --> Rochester AHL
Grigorenko --> Quebec QMJHL
Kaleta/Porter --> Buffalo NHL

As much as I want to see these guys play, its probably better to have them play big minutes somewhere else.

Let them develop for a year or two, trade some of our excess picks and prospects (which are still valuable) for veterans, and in a couple years its 2005-2006 again.

 

[SabresFan26]

As much as I want to see these guys play, its probably better to have them play big minutes somewhere else.

Let them develop for a year or two, trade some of our excess picks and prospects (which are still valuable) for veterans, and in a couple years its 2005-2006 again.

I'll add that Adam might also get recalled. I imagine they want to bring a veteran up though as they are a few players over their veteran limit

 

[Chainshot]

When you say younger players.....are you talking about prospects or younger NHL players who are 25 or younger playing now with the NHL club?


The fact is some teams just wont trade their prospects but they are willing to trade their picks.

Either. And teams that are willing or unwilling to move already drafted assets are out there. It isn't everyone, but taking less in draft-pick value to get a partially finished body certainly fits more with the idea of building.

If Ott, Moulson, Miller, and Tallinder are all off roster, we are going to have to pick up some salary to hit the floor. I suspect it will be via trade and probably overpaying some mid level UFAs (Bolland and Orpik fit the bill)

Don't forget the possibility of a CBO on Leino.

Buffalo could be marketing their available cap space, relativley deep pockets and essentially barter futures for other teams' cap dumps. 16 teams have less than a million in available cap space as of today. 10 are over, living on LTIR for now. That's a lot of opportunity to pick up a piece here or there either cheaply or freely.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Ted Nolan Press Conference (11/18/13)
[nhl]488541[/nhl]

 

[Chainshot]

Glad to hear some rational, logical thought coming out about moving players back to places to continue to grow their game.

To echo the other's comments: I would expect Grigorenko, Zadorov, and maybe Larsson get re-assigned in the next day.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Glad to hear some rational, logical thought coming out about moving players back to places to continue to grow their game.

To echo the other's comments: I would expect Grigorenko, Zadorov, and maybe Larsson get re-assigned in the next day.

@CraigJButton

Following up on Ted Nolan's commentary. It's about setting players up to succeed in the NHL not just to be a player in the NHL.

 

[couture23]

"New Sabres coach Nolan thinks his club has too many teenagers"

http://beta.thescore.com/news/355804