New York Islanders: Roster Discussion: Filppula out 4 weeks; Boychuk, Eberle day to day

[seafoam]

Cizikas is starting to skate as well.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Would like for Ross today, Matty another day.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Cizikas is starting to skate as well.

Great news. MM is part of the leadership group here, the whole team looks better when he plays.

 

[Glory Days]

Fritz is a definite improvement over MDC. At least Fritz brings league average skating and hustle. From his brief stint in the NHL I didn't see anything that would convince me MDC will ever amount to anything in the NHL.

 

[xIsle]

Cizikas probably back tomorrow.

 

[crasherino]

Cizikas probably back tomorrow.

That is great news. He makes that 4th line (3rd line - whatever you want to call it) go.

 

[BrockLobster]

Cizikas probably back tomorrow.

But gionta lives to see another day...

 

[xIsle]

These PP units doesn't make much sense : 1 Right-Handed and 4 Left-Handed on PP1, and the contrary on PP2 (4 RH and 1 LH)!

What I would like to see is this :

PP1

---------NET----------
---------Lee-----------
Barzal--------Nelson
---Pulock---Bailey---

PP2

--------NET-----------
------Komarov-------
Eberle------Beauvillier
---Leddy---Filppula---

Or maybe Beauvillier in front of the net and Boychuk playing on left D.

 

[Sparksrus3]

That is great news. He makes that 4th line (3rd line - whatever you want to call it) go.

As long as the status of Ladd on IR has not changed Sparks is ok.

 

[PK Cronin]

These PP units doesn't make much sense : 1 Right-Handed and 4 Left-Handed on PP1, and the contrary on PP2 (4 RH and 1 LH)!

What I would like to see is this :

PP1

---------NET----------
---------Lee-----------
Barzal--------Nelson
---Pulock---Bailey---

PP2

--------NET-----------
------Komarov-------
Eberle------Beauvillier
---Leddy---Filppula---

Or maybe Beauvillier in front of the net and Boychuk playing on left D.

Pulock couldn't shoot it on passes from Barzal with that set up.

 

[seafoam]

Day to day

 

[Islesfan22]

Pulock couldn't shoot it on passes from Barzal with that set up.

Pp is an utter disaster right now. Need to get back to basics with point shots and Lee in front of goal.

 

[xIsle]

Pulock couldn't shoot it on passes from Barzal with that set up.

My set-up is not that important (I put the two right-handed on the left so they can use the one-timer if needed). What I wanted to highlight was the choice of players for each PP units. And in any case, it often happens that the players must switch position according to the course of action.

 

[duster19]

These PP units doesn't make much sense : 1 Right-Handed and 4 Left-Handed on PP1, and the contrary on PP2 (4 RH and 1 LH)!

What I would like to see is this :

PP1

---------NET----------
---------Lee-----------
Barzal--------Nelson
---Pulock---Bailey---

PP2

--------NET-----------
------Komarov-------
Eberle------Beauvillier
---Leddy---Filppula---

Or maybe Beauvillier in front of the net and Boychuk playing on left D.

Why is Clutterbuck on the PP? guy has scored one goal in like 60 games. Leddy has 1 goal this yr but never misses a minute on that top unit. Leddy is also way to slow with the puck at the top of the umbrella and then compounds that because he won’t shoot/doesn’t have a great shot.

Gomez is the last holdover from the Snow/Weight era that has to go. Nothing he does makes sense. He way over thinks things.

You can’t have a PP where all your primary shooting spots are played by passers.

 

[duster19]

Pulock couldn't shoot it on passes from Barzal with that set up.

He could. One timers would be difficult though. Many other ways to work the puck to Pulock as well.

 

[xIsle]

He could. One timers would be difficult though. Many other ways to work the puck to Pulock as well.

Or this could be a better set-up :

---------NET----------
-----Lee----Nelson---
Barzal----------Bailey
--------Pulock--------

For the one-timer pass to Pulock, probably the pass would come more often from Bailey than Barzal.

 

[crasherino]

Or this could be a better set-up :

---------NET----------
-----Lee----Nelson---
Barzal----------Bailey
--------Pulock--------

For the one-timer pass to Pulock, probably the pass would come more often from Bailey than Barzal.

I think you switch Pulock and Barzal there. That way you have two options for the one-timer - Bailey or Pulock and Barzal has room to create. Both Nelson and Lee can rotate between the high/low slot (similar to where Wilson scored against us).

Since the switch up on the PP, it seems like all they do is work to get Pulock a shot at the expense of any other puck movement. Pulock has a great shot and it should be taken advantage of, but they should feed him when he is organically open.

 

[Glory Days]

Pulock couldn't shoot it on passes from Barzal with that set up.

Doesn't matter since Pulock never hits the net. The guy makes Boychuk look accurate.

 

[PK Cronin]

Or this could be a better set-up :

---------NET----------
-----Lee----Nelson---
Barzal----------Bailey
--------Pulock--------

For the one-timer pass to Pulock, probably the pass would come more often from Bailey than Barzal.

Pulock cannot shoot a one timer from that spot if the pass is coming from Barzal. Shooting a one timer when the puck is coming from the wrong side is incredibly difficult and nearly impossible.

 

[PK Cronin]

I think you switch Pulock and Barzal there. That way you have two options for the one-timer - Bailey or Pulock and Barzal has room to create. Both Nelson and Lee can rotate between the high/low slot (similar to where Wilson scored against us).

Since the switch up on the PP, it seems like all they do is work to get Pulock a shot at the expense of any other puck movement. Pulock has a great shot and it should be taken advantage of, but they should feed him when he is organically open.

I don't think the PKers will respect Barzal up there as a shooter and they'll just shade towards Pulock and Bailey. They aren't afraid of Barzal as a shooter when he's at the hash marks, so why would they be if he was further out? It's a similar problem we have now with Leddy and Barzal being non-threats to shoot. The PP needs a left handed defensemen who is willing, and good, at shooting the puck in order to have the most success.

 

[xIsle]

Pulock cannot shoot a one timer from that spot if the pass is coming from Barzal. Shooting a one timer when the puck is coming from the wrong side is incredibly difficult and nearly impossible.

Yeah I know! That's why I said the one-time pass would come more often from Bailey! The only way to Barzal to make the one-timer to Pulock is if he switch position with someone during the course of action. But he can always feed Nelson or Bailey. And Bailey is also a good passer and he can feed Pulock as well.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

I don't think the PKers will respect Barzal up there as a shooter and they'll just shade towards Pulock and Bailey. They aren't afraid of Barzal as a shooter when he's at the hash marks, so why would they be if he was further out? It's a similar problem we have now with Leddy and Barzal being non-threats to shoot. The PP needs a left handed defensemen who is willing, and good, at shooting the puck in order to have the most success.

Barzal needs to shoot more it’s always said but I feel like on PP it’s way more of issue he always seems to get puck and turn away from net to pass just take shot sometimes.

 

[PK Cronin]

Yeah I know! That's why I said the one-time pass would come more often from Bailey! The only way to Barzal to make the one-timer to Pulock is if he switch position with someone during the course of action. But he can always feed Nelson or Bailey. And Bailey is also a good passer and he can feed Pulock as well.

My mistake, I didn't realize you meant that Barzal would be roaming to a different spot. Bailey is a good passer, but if the defense sags lower to clog that cross ice pass, since Barzal isn't a threat to shoot from there, it makes it a lot more difficult.

 

[majormet]

I am starting to feel the Isles team is a bit old and it may sound drastic to bring up JHS, Toews and MDC to play but if you look at them playing over Kuhnackl, Eberle (traded) and Hickey respectively I don't think we would lose too much of a beat, Sbisa and Johnston can be sent down to the farm and Hickey and Kuhn would be the extras

Ideally this team would be more interesting configured as

Lee/Barzal/Bailey
Beau/Nelson/JHS
MDC/Filp,/Leo
Martin or Kuhnackl/Cizikas/Clutter

Leddy/Boychuk
Toews/Pulock
Pelech/Mayfield

 

[seafoam]