Salary Cap: Roster changes till the season starts

[Ace Rothstein]

So Stalberg and Pirri can get better with age, but Cumiskey can't. Good to know.

Pirri can probably get better with age. The other two are likely who they are at this point.

 

[Illinihockey]

CapGeek‏@capgeek·3m3 minutes ago
Explanation of #Blackhawks mysterious cap space: #Coyotes retained 27 percent of David Rundblad's contract at last year's trade deadline.

 

[Taze em]

CAP OVERAGE EXPLAINED!

Coyotes retained 27% of Rundblads salary in that trade.

Edit: dammit illinihockey, can't beat you

 

[Kurtosis]

Actually HGF beat both of you.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

Well, we are good to go then! Let's go!!!

 

[Hawkaholic]

Pirri can probably get better with age. The other two are likely who they are at this point.

When Cumiskey left the NHL, he was 24 years old. Brandon Pirri this year is 23 years old. Not much difference.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

That is such an odd salary retention

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

When Cumiskey left the NHL, he was 24 years old. Brandon Pirri this year is 23 years old. Not much difference.

Cumiskey is currently 27. He's not getting better.

 

[hisgirlfriday]

That is such an odd salary retention

Gnat's ass.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

Gnat's ass.

But Bowman sucks at this, no way.

 

[Sevanston]

So the cap specifics of that deal have been a secret for how many months now?

It's absurd just how well the front office can keep contract/cap specifics secret.

 

[Taze em]

That salary retention is the most impressive thing I've ever seen. Basically, it means Stan:
1) had the cap predicted to the gnats ass @the TDL last year
2) knew who he was trading, before the last playoffs

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

That salary retention is the most impressive thing I've ever seen. Basically, it means Stan:
1) had the cap predicted to the gnats ass @the TDL last year
2) knew who he was trading, before the last playoffs

He traded a 2nd rounder pick for a complete bust

Lets not pretend there was a positive in the Rundblad move

Yotes retain cap simply to sucker him into giving them a 2nd instead of a 3rd/4th

 

[hisgirlfriday]

That salary retention is the most impressive thing I've ever seen. Basically, it means Stan:
1) had the cap predicted to the gnats ass @the TDL last year
2) knew who he was trading, before the last playoffs

I'm not sure that is what it means.

It just means he knew he was tight against the cap for next year and knew if he acquired Rundblad it needed to be below $575k.

But this does explain one moment during the summer that had me confused when right after they signed Regin they were just barely over the cap and it seemed dumb to not have signed him for just a little less to be under if that was the goal.

eta: This also means the Hawks could have got under the cap all summer just trading Versteeg or Rozsival. Hmm.

 

[hisgirlfriday]

He traded a 2nd rounder pick for a complete bust

Lets not pretend there was a positive in the Rundblad move

Yotes retain cap simply to sucker him into giving them a 2nd instead of a 3rd/4th

What do you mean there was no positive? It got rid of Leddy who you hated.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

What do you mean there was no positive? It got rid of Leddy who you hated.

He's got to find some negative way to spin it, no matter what, because Bowman simply just cannot make a good move, no matter what.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Neat, good to hear that the Rundblad deal had a bit of economic incentive for us.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

He's got to find some negative way to spin it, no matter what, because Bowman simply just cannot make a good move, no matter what.

There is no defending that trade

I like Bowman but he blew it on this one

 

[Taze em]

There is no defending that trade

I like Bowman but he blew it on this one

How do you know? Have you seen not the future? Because Rundblad is scheduled to play a lot of games this year with Johnny Oduya and the Coyotes picked a 14 point scorer in the OHL from Palos Il with our pick.

 

[CourtneyDagger50]

In NHL 14 he gets really good..... PATIENCE GUYS!

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

In NHL 14 he gets really good..... PATIENCE GUYS!

Hahaha I thought I was the only one on here that made NHL video game jokes

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

How do you know? Have you seen not the future? Because Rundblad is scheduled to play a lot of games this year with Johnny Oduya and the Coyotes picked a 14 point scorer in the OHL from Palos Il with our pick.

So your saying Q is breaking up the Hawks shutdown line to cover for this mistake? This player who has already been given up on by several organization and who looks absolutely terrible on ice as a Blackhawks thus far

A defender who a noted "D guru" Tippets buried in press box and didn't want on ice

How Yotes used pick they got from mean nothing

Really your rebuttal has just further proven my point

 

[Taze em]

So your saying Q is breaking up the Hawks shutdown line to cover for this mistake? This player who has already been given up on by several organization and who looks absolutely terrible on ice as a Blackhawks thus far

A defender who a noted "D guru" Tippets buried in press box and didn't want on ice

How Yotes used pick they got from mean nothing

Really your rebuttal has just further proven my point

He was only "given up on" once. Being traded for Turris and Tarasenko is not being given up on.

I'll trust Stan and Q a lot more than I'll trust that clown shoes organization in the desert. Also Rundblad has looked fine in the preseason. Q is splitting Oduya and Hjalmarsson because they are both left handed,while Rundblad and TVR are both right handed.

 

[Illinihockey]

Is Leddy also a bust? He's been given up on by 2 teams now too by that logc.

 

[Blue Liner]

How do you know? Have you seen not the future? Because Rundblad is scheduled to play a lot of games this year with Johnny Oduya and the Coyotes picked a 14 point scorer in the OHL from Palos Il with our pick.

Hate to be nitpicky but this is a bad example to use and is ignorant of fact. I'm going with the assumption that you're using this draft pick as a negative thing for the Coyotes' sake.

Christian Dvorak is the player you're speaking of and he only had 14 points because he missed over half the season (his rookie season) with a knee injury and was putting up a lot of those points in the games leading up to getting injured. He was a projected 2nd Round Pick pretty much everywhere, a top recruit for Wisconsin, and is an excellent prospect.

Not posting this to be a dick or anything of the sort, just merely pointing out you might want to use a better example and do a little homework before just going by a stat and where a guy is from (also not sure how that's a negative) before using it to make a point.