NYR Viper
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I'd trade for Bickell if this year is a transition year if Chicago would throw in some nice pieces of a nice piece. That's exactly what this team should do of they are retooling AND can make some cap space.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread XLVII: June Swoon or a 1st rounder?
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UAGoalieGuy
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What would go back for Bickell though? He's got one more year left at $4 million. Chicago isn't taking Staal, Girardi or Nash.
Bickel and Teravainen for what?
Bickel and Teravainen for what?
Beer League Sniper
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If we can offload Nash on another team to create the cap to take Bickell, I'd do it if the piece coming with him is decent. Force them to take Glass back.
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inb4 people propose replacing Stepan or Brassard with Hanzal and do it with a straight face.
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That ship sailed. He would've made sense a couple of seasons ago, but not now. I see him going to a team like the Devils, Canes, Sens, or Nashville.
I'd only do it if they were adding a piece of Teravainen's caliber. They likely want futures back, so perhaps flipping Klein to Edmonton might make sense for their 2nd this year and another piece. Send that to Chicago.
Samuel Culper III
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Well Chicago is looking to upgrade their blue line as well so I could see something like Bickell + TT for Klein's great contract actually being very attractive. We endure one year of Bickell and then it's basically TT for Klein, which is excellent asset management.
For Chicago:
Keith - Seabrook
Hjalmarsson - Klein
Is an instant improvement.
For Chicago:
Keith - Seabrook
Hjalmarsson - Klein
Is an instant improvement.
Hypothetically I'd ask for that defensemen the Isles traded in the Leddy deal too... he is a bit smallish but looks like he'll be an NHLer... and I'd retain 50% on Klein to do it. Buyout Bickell.
Last year they gave up Stephen Johns to off-load Sharp... a very good defenseman that was brought along the right way and looks to be a top 4 guy.
But it's highly unlikely the Rangers will carry dead cap space. The Rangers won't do that
They will carry a 3rd pair D with $5.5M on the cap... that's the dead space the Rangers will carry.
glees68
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Bill Daly seems to be hit-or-miss way more than he should but this is intriguing to say the least.
Irishguy42
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Seems like a lot of conflicting info coming out.
Probably best to just wait and see for the official rules to likely come out in a few weeks.
Probably best to just wait and see for the official rules to likely come out in a few weeks.
Miller Time NYR
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I'm just gona stop thinking about the expansion draft until it becomes official with rules. The situation is so vague and fluid it's not even worth the time or effort.
UAGoalieGuy
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I think your referencing Ville Pokka.
That would be a nice return for Klein with $1.45 million retained. Teravainen would be a great add that can help right away and Pokka should be able to fight it out for a spot on the right side. He isn't small really. 6ft 215lbs.
Bickell adds depth. He's not that bad of a player just makes way too much money for the role he fills.
Too bad he's so injury prone, would have liked him. Unless you're trading him for Girardi then yeah!
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Klein maybe. We dump salary elsewhere and take on Bickell's entire 4 mill. As an incentive they give us a young player/prospect.
Yeah that's him, but I don't think the Rangers take on dead cap space like that.
IMO they will trade for depth and fill up to the cap. I could see 2-3 of these guys moving to make it happen:
Nash
Brassard
Stepan
Klein
Staal
Out of those, Staal will depend on how talks go with Yandle. Unless the Rangers go somewhere in the $45-50M range on 7-8 years, I don't think he's back.
The last time a player of Yandle's profile hit UFA was Brian Cambell. Look how that worked out. (with a cup, a trade, and a player that wasn't worth $7+M but still was and is a good top 4 player).
Stepan: If Minny ponies up Coyle and Dumba, then you pull the trigger. If not then they have some pieces to overpay with... but ones that don't fill the Rangers' needs. Their GM is on the hotseat, times like that is when they make desperate moves. Still I don't think Derek is worth $6.5M on the cap, but I also think he's your last trade chip.
Klein: For what he brings and what he's paid... you don't want to move him... but the argument against it depends on the value.... young NHL player that can play right away? Plus Draft picks? Look at what Polak brought back... he's a 3rd pair guy. Klein is a top 4 guy on a sub $3M hit.
Brassard: IMO this is probably the bold move to make as you have Kevin Hayes who you can put in the Brassard role... Brass is on a 3 year $10M deal after July 1st... tremendous value for any budget team... he's been the Rangers most consistent offensive player the last 3 years... however... he produces with favorable matchups. When AV has last change... so.... yeah he's been a big part of the Rangers home success. When the matchups aren't favorable... he doesn't produce. IMO trading him allows the team to get assets, put players in their proper roles, and back fill the line up.
Nash: IMO he'll get a ransom compared to what people say here. Generally a player like this doesn't get traded every off-season. I'm not of the group where I go "Gaaahh he sux.. get rid of him for anything". IMO you identify roles you want to fill in a return for Nash... and draft picks. If you get a first... take that first and trade down and get more picks. Stretch the value of this asset.
The Rangers biggest issue last year is that they didn't have guys that did their jobs... didn't have guys that filled their roles. Didn't have guys that showed up every night. Didn't have guys that would battle for a full 60. Didn't have guys that they could send over the bench to protect a lead in critical time.
What does that mean? They didn't have the depth, nor the right kind of depth. You don't get without making sacrifices.
In broad strokes, the Rangers need to inject speed back into their lineup this offseason. The breakout and the forechecking were akin to molasses last season. In hindsight, Hagelin was the engine - his speed continues to create all kinds of chaos for Pittsburgh and it's been a huge benefit for them.
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100% agreed. Whether it be a speedy, tenacious forecheck like Pitt, or a heavy, grinding forecheck like LA or Anaheim, they need to figure out what identity they want this team to have and build from there.
I'd personally prefer the speed option since the grinding style wears players down a lot faster.
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