Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXXVIII

[GoAwayPanarin]

He can have him if it brings us back their pick.

They can just have him.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Their coach loves him, he and Bob would make them instant contenders rather than a bubble team.

If he’s not much better than Hoffman, why should we give him $9-10m for 7 years?

Because Hoffman himself is probably a 7-8M dollar player based on his production. Panarin is definitely the better player though in all facets of the game except maybe shooting the puck. And I think Bob alone would make them a contender, that's how bad their goaltending is.

 

[offdacrossbar]

i like hoffman

would love his shot on this team

guy can finish

 

[duhmetreE]

Their coach loves him, he and Bob would make them instant contenders rather than a bubble team.

If he’s not much better than Hoffman, why should we give him $9-10m for 7 years?

Who said he's not much better than Hoffman? Hoffman puts up great numbers on the PP. Top6 winger is not a position of need for FLA. If they trade Hoffman for defensive help, it'd make more sense. Offense wasn't their issue though.

How much do you think Hoffman is going to get in a years time?

 

[duhmetreE]

why would we be moving chytil ?

thats not gonna happen

for a superior player?

 

[haohmaru]

for a superior player?

We don't even know what Chytil is yet. He's not going anywhere.

 

[mas0764]

for a superior player?

Hoffman is 29 years old and has basically been a 50-60 point player his whole career. We don’t think Chytil is going to reach that relatively early in his career?

 

[duhmetreE]

Hoffman is 29 years old and has basically been a 50-60 point player his whole career. We don’t think Chytil is going to reach that relatively early in his career?

I mentioned Chytil for Huberdeau.

Would not give up anywhere close to that for Hoffman

 

[SA16]

I wouldn't take Ferland at league minimum. Very likely he breaks down.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I wouldn't take Ferland at league minimum. Very likely he breaks down.

Wat.

 

[duhmetreE]

I wouldn't take Ferland at league minimum. Very likely he breaks down.

with or without a NMC?

 

[haohmaru]

I wouldn't take Ferland at league minimum. Very likely he breaks down.

You'd be dumb not to.

 

[Tawnos]

I wouldn't take Ferland at league minimum. Very likely he breaks down.

Fair enough. What are your thoughts on Donskoi or Connolly?

And keep in mind, this is all IF we trade Kreider, don’t sign Panarin, and don’t bring in another forward via trade.

 

[Krams]

I wouldn't take Ferland at league minimum. Very likely he breaks down.

Yes you would, every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Otherwise, you're just being hyperbolic to prove a point.

 

[Tawnos]

Yes you would, every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Otherwise, you're just being hyperbolic to prove a point.

Yeah, but we understand what he’s saying.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Fair enough. What are your thoughts on Donskoi or Connolly?

And keep in mind, this is all IF we trade Kreider, don’t sign Panarin, and don’t bring in another forward via trade.

Donskoi at 3/3.5M or less, Connolly similar. I'd trade Strome and replace him with either of them.

 

[Krams]

Yeah, but we understand what he’s saying.

I don't. If there's something to be expanded upon then let him speak for himself.

 

[SA16]

Fair enough. What are your thoughts on Donskoi or Connolly?

And keep in mind, this is all IF we trade Kreider, don’t sign Panarin, and don’t bring in another forward via trade.

Honestly I had no idea Connolly scored 46 points. That actually seems like a very interesting depth target. His scoring rates are actually really good over the last 3 seasons. I like Donskoi as well though don't like his distaste for shooting.

And I like Ferland as a player but I think he's the type of guy who will get way overpaid. I can see him being in the Ladd/Backes mold as he ages.

 

[NYR Viper]

I’d look into Ferland for sure. Guy can play and add something that’s incredibly unique in today’s NHL. 4 years I’m good with. The Rangers are going to have a whole bunch of young players on ELC’s. 4 years of anyone is easily do-able with the cap. The added benefit of Ferland is that he can play anywhere in the lineup and add something that the young skilled kids probably won’t bring Day 1 if ever.

It’s the same reason I was gung ho for Lemieux. They can play the game, add offense and be a PIA to play against while sticking up for their teammates

 

[eco's bones]

For a 3rd liner type--Brandon Tanev is very underrated.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Honestly I had no idea Connolly scored 46 points. That actually seems like a very interesting depth target. His scoring rates are actually really good over the last 3 seasons. I like Donskoi as well though don't like his distaste for shooting.

And I like Ferland as a player but I think he's the type of guy who will get way overpaid. I can see him being in the Ladd/Backes mold as he ages.

Ladd and Backes had 3x the NHL mileage that Ferland does at the time of their UFA deals.

He very well may be overpaid though, that I agree with.

 

[NYR Viper]

Honestly I had no idea Connolly scored 46 points. That actually seems like a very interesting depth target. His scoring rates are actually really good over the last 3 seasons. I like Donskoi as well though don't like his distaste for shooting.

And I like Ferland as a player but I think he's the type of guy who will get way overpaid. I can see him being in the Ladd/Backes mold as he ages.

Ferland doesn’t have the same miles on his body as Backes or Ladd. Both of whom were effective until just past 30. Ladd was effective this year when playing. A 4 year deal takes Ferland to 31. About when both Backes and Ladd began to drop off.

 

[SA16]

Ladd and Backes had 3x the NHL mileage that Ferland does at the time of their UFA deals.

He very well may be overpaid though, that I agree with.

Yes, that's true. But he plays a very rough game and has already been in/out of the lineup a lot this year and playing with lingering issues regularly. He seems extremely risky to me for someone that has not exactly put up top level production.

 

[Tawnos]

Donskoi at 3/3.5M or less, Connolly similar. I'd trade Strome and replace him with either of them.

I guess it depends on how many of the 12 forwards you think we need to be vets, even if they’re young vets, both for the operation of a team on the ice and some insulation for the youngsters.

In that scenario, they’ve got Zibanejad, Namestnikov, Strome, Vesey, and Fast (who honestly I forget is around at this point). That’s 5, plus a guy who I would consider an established kid in Buchnevich.

I’d be more comfortable with one more, from a depth point of view. 7 guys, plus Chytil, Lemieux, Andersson, Howden, Kravtsov, and Kakko/Hughes... strikes me as a good balance.

Honestly I had no idea Connolly scored 46 points. That actually seems like a very interesting depth target. His scoring rates are actually really good over the last 3 seasons. I like Donskoi as well though don't like his distaste for shooting.

And I like Ferland as a player but I think he's the type of guy who will get way overpaid. I can see him being in the Ladd/Backes mold as he ages.

Quinn might be exactly the right coach for Donskoi at this stage of his career for that reason.

I get it about Ferland and I had the same thought. Callahan too.

 

[Tawnos]

For a 3rd liner type--Brandon Tanev is very underrated.

He strikes me more as the Fast type. Can be a 3rd liner, is best as a 4th liner. I like him too though.