Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XV: Trading up or down? - Mod Warning post #450

[Waivers]

Acknowledged, HQ. Where did that proposal come from anyway, a user on the main boards? It is so crazy that anyone would give up that much value within a trade, just mind-blown at the proposition.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Couple years younger, right handed, slightly bigger player.

It was just a thought

I could see it as a way to replace Hayes in the short term.

 

[Ola]

Couple years younger, right handed, slightly bigger player.

It was just a thought

For me it’s hard to gauge Spooner’s value, I wouldn’t rule out that we could get more for him, but speaking of Ryan Strome isolated I wouldn’t mind getting him on board.

I think someone like Strome is good to bring on board to push Howden for example, show how high the bar must be sat. Never wrong with a RHS.

 

[TheTakedown]

2017: Rangers aren't trading Stepan
2018: Rangers aren't drafting Boqvist

He also said they didn't want Wahlstrom and someone else...

So basically the Rangers are targeting everyone that we've been discussing

 

[NYR Viper]

https://www.tsn.ca/video/karlsson-likely-to-be-traded-kovalchuk-talks-heating-up~1422247

Apparently this is saying Linholm may be dealt and Hamilton's name is coming up. You know who would ft in well here? Hayes.

Hayes to Calgary, Hamilton to CAR, Lindholm to NYR. Add parts and pieces to even it out.

 

[silverfish]

Does eating $5.5m of real money on the Bolland contract entice Arizona to swap 5 for 9? Probably not.

 

[bleedblue94]

Think it would make more sense for a Hamilton Hayes swap.

Or Hayes spooner and a 2nd for hamilton and fox

 

[NYR Viper]

Think it would make more sense for a Hamilton Hayes swap.

Or Hayes spooner and a 2nd for hamilton and fox

I just don't see the need for Hamilton right now. I also think the team will be pushing for Karlsson's services in the near future. Where do Hamilton, Shattenkirk, Karlson, Pionk play?

I just don't see the need for another right-shot defenseman right now. Now, another RH center who is 23 and has 45 points in 72 games and 44 points in 82 over the last couple. He would fit this next wave of young players really well. Chytil and Andersson are both LH

 

[YoSoyLalo]

https://www.tsn.ca/video/karlsson-likely-to-be-traded-kovalchuk-talks-heating-up~1422247

Apparently this is saying Linholm may be dealt and Hamilton's name is coming up. You know who would ft in well here? Hayes.

Hayes to Calgary, Hamilton to CAR, Lindholm to NYR. Add parts and pieces to even it out.

We better be getting a lot attached to Lindholm.

 

[NYR Viper]

We better be getting a lot attached to Lindholm.

Why would you say that?

Hayes had 44 points last year, Lindholm had 44 points last year. Hayes is LH, Lindholm is RH. Hayes is 26, Lindholm is 23. Goals favor Hayes @ 25 to 16 and perhaps Hayes is a more polished player and defensive player but Lindholm is a good 2-way player as well.

To me this would be a nice deal for this team.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Why would you say that?

Hayes had 44 points last year, Lindholm had 44 points last year. Hayes is LH, Lindholm is RH. Hayes is 26, Lindholm is 23. Goals favor Hayes @ 25 to 16 and perhaps Hayes is a more polished player and defensive player but Lindholm is a good 2-way player as well.

To me this would be a nice deal for this team.

Lindholm is a winger, Hayes is a center.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Does eating $5.5m of real money on the Bolland contract entice Arizona to swap 5 for 9? Probably not.

Nah brah they need him to hit the cap floor. They ain't looking to go over the floor by much

 

[silverfish]

Nah brah they need him to hit the cap floor. They ain't looking to go over the floor by much

Makes sense. Thought of it because I was kind of shocked his cap hit and real $ value are equal.

 

[NYR Viper]

Lindholm is a winger, Hayes is a center.

I thought Lindholm was drafted and played center, no?

 

[Zibanejbread]

I thought Lindholm was drafted and played center, no?

He took 800 FOs last year.

 

[Nopuckluck]

Damn. Someone posted the following proposal:

Karlsson+4OA
for
Zuccarello, Namestnikov, Day, 26OA and 28OA

It's difficult to say no to that. Having 4OA and 9OA plus Karlsson? That's exciting.

Big time yes. Karlsson and Zadina

 

[GAGLine]

Makes sense. Thought of it because I was kind of shocked his cap hit and real $ value are equal.

I would assume that at least a large portion of that is being paid by insurance.

 

[Nopuckluck]

Don't know why anyone would question giving up Zucc, Names, Day, both our later first round picks, to come out on Friday with a Top 5 pick, a Top 10 pick, and Erik Karlsson... When is the last time anything that good has happened to the Rangers?

Soooooooooooo much this!!!!!!!

 

[GregSirico]

Where’d you hear Hughes? I’d be ecstatic if we grabbed him (I have him ranked 3rd) didn’t Brooks mention Bouchard? Hope we don’t go after Kotka though

Brooks piece mentions Hughes a few times. Have to think he's high on NYR's radar.

 

[GregSirico]

I worry about Hughes ability to play defense. I get the whole...who needs to defend if you always have the puck...but sometimes he's gonna play against guys like ovechkin Crosby mcdavid hall matthews etc etc etc....you still gotta defend...he's gotta be one of the weaker defenders from what I've seen and read.

I think he's better defensively than Bouchard & Boqvist for what it's worth.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Brooks piece mentions Hughes a few times. Have to think he's high on NYR's radar.

Yeah, him and Tkachuk for sure. I mean, it’s pretty obvious we’d be high on those guys, even if Edge didn’t basically confirm it.

 

[Glennsoe]

A friend suggested Zuccarello for Simmonds straight up...

I shooked my head..

 

[Inferno]

I think he's better defensively than Bouchard & Boqvist for what it's worth.

Hmm..interesting. I'd say boqvist is definitely debateable...bouchard I'd probably guess as better?. He's definitely one I had written off as a guy I'm not super high on

 

[Zibanejbread]

 

[Inferno]

A friend suggested Zuccarello for Simmonds straight up...

I shooked my head..

For? Us or Philly? Philly would be brain dead to do that Imho. I'd take Simmonds over him.