Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XV: Trading up or down? - Mod Warning post #450

[NYR Viper]

If the deal is in the Rangers favor, maybe. I’d still prefer to wait and use those same assets to bring in other pieces that will be around long term. Another season of additional futures would be helpful.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Pretty quiet on the rumor front 48 hours before the draft. Not just the Rangers but overall.

 

[mike14]

We also would be taking on Ryan's zillion dollars until 2022

Well yeah. But there'd only be 2 seasons where all of Hank, Staal, Smith, Shatty, Ryan and EK's mega salary cross, which can be dealt with if you are looking to surround them with ELCs and cheaper players; and becomes even easier if you can move one of SSS for a smaller caphit

To me, having EK doesn't really help us next season, so why not just let him know you are interested and make a big push in 12 months when he's a FA? You have a better idea of where your roster is at, and you don't have to worry about the Ryan caphit, which can basically be used to pay EK the 8th year that he'd be missing out on

 

[Levitate]

Pretty quiet on the rumor front 48 hours before the draft. Not just the Rangers but overall.

Rumor that Montreal are talking a ROR and Patches swap, or maybe ROR for 3rd overall

 

[bl02]

Well yeah. But there'd only be 2 seasons where all of Hank, Staal, Smith, Shatty, Ryan and EK's mega salary cross, which can be dealt with if you are looking to surround them with ELCs and cheaper players; and becomes even easier if you can move one of SSS for a smaller caphit

To me, having EK doesn't really help us next season, so why not just let him know you are interested and make a big push in 12 months when he's a FA? You have a better idea of where your roster is at, and you don't have to worry about the Ryan caphit, which can basically be used to pay EK the 8th year that he'd be missing out on

I guess big problem with that is that if EK is gone by friday (which most ottawa senator pundits feel he will be) he will be most likely a sign and trade. One would think at least. I still agree 100 percent with you. Just see what happens and if he is a FA next summer then try to get him here. Having him here next year makes zero sense.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Rumor that Montreal are talking a ROR and Patches swap, or maybe ROR for 3rd overall

If ROR nets the #3 OA I'll vomit.

 

[bl02]

Rumor that Montreal are talking a ROR and Patches swap, or maybe ROR for 3rd overall

Thats quite the difference in assets lol. Patioready vs Zadina. Almost not fair if Buffalo gets Dahlin and Zadina in one draft. WTF. Montreal would be so dumb to trade that pick for ROR. MB needs to go for that franchises sake...actually let him stay as long as possible. I like the drama lol

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Pretty quiet on the rumor front 48 hours before the draft. Not just the Rangers but overall.

It’s always like this.

We’ll hear things heat up Friday morning, a few moves will happen and then the floodgates will open.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

We’re due for a Brooks article in the next day or so

 

[NYR Viper]

Rumor that Montreal are talking a ROR and Patches swap, or maybe ROR for 3rd overall

Both of those would be horrible for Montreal

 

[Edge]

Both of those would be horrible for Montreal

Tremendous for Buffalo.

And Montreal could corner the market on second line centers.

 

[Levitate]

Presumably there would be ab it more to the trades than that but Montreal is incredibly dumb

 

[TheBloodyNine]

ROR not worth 15th overall straight up, let alone 3rd overall.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Both of those would be horrible for Montreal

How would ROR for Patches be bad for Montreal? A number 1 center for a winger, albeit a good winge with 1 year left on his contract.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Both of those would be horrible for Montreal

That’s why the rumors are believable.

 

[NYR Viper]

How would ROR for Patches be bad for Montreal? A number 1 center for a winger, albeit a good winge with 1 year left on his contract.

That’s a very good point, I meant bad for Montreal for the 3rd overall and bad for Buffalo if it was just Pacioretty

 

[Fitzy]

If that's a legitimate rumor, NYR should step with with Zibanejad+ or Hayes+ for the 3rd overall to compete.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

If that's a legitimate rumor, NYR should step with with Zibanejad+ or Hayes+ for the 3rd overall to compete.

Zibanejad+?

Nah.

 

[Fitzy]

Zibanejad+?

Nah.

 

[DanielBrassard]

That’s a very good point, I meant bad for Montreal for the 3rd overall and bad for Buffalo if it was just Pacioretty

Fair enough. Although I still think O'Reilly for the 3rd is plenty fair as well, but doesn't make much sense for Montreal considering where their team is

 

[TheBloodyNine]

How would ROR for Patches be bad for Montreal? A number 1 center for a winger, albeit a good winge with 1 year left on his contract.

I gotta disagree with the notion that he's a number 1 center. An elite #2.

 

[Trxjw]

Personally, I like a Patches / ROR swap more for the Habs than the Sabres. Patches might be a guy who takes his shot in free agency if he has a bounce-back season. Which I believe he will.

ROR is a very underrated player.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I gotta disagree with the notion that he's a number 1 center. An elite #2.

He's not an elite #1, but he's certainly a top line center IMO.

 

[Edge]

I love ROR, but he's the ultimate number two center in my book.

I can't help but feel that putting slotting him into a first line role is not going to produce the results Montreal hopes for, or play to his strengths.

Meanwhile in Buffalo, you're talking about someone like Zadina joining Eichel, Dahlin, and potentially Mittelstadt.

Unless of course the deal grows and you're talking about something like Patches and the 3rd pick for ROR and Ristolainen.

 

[NYR Viper]

ROR put up 60 points in a super shitty Buffalo team along with excellent 2-way play. He’s slightly better than Stepan and he was this teams #1 for a few of their best years.

I’d honestly love him in NY but I know others aren’t as enamored.