Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVIII

[Avery16]

Is there any world where Eichel is attainable while still holding on to the #1OA?

All of them. There’s no way we’d trade 1OA or a recent 2OA on an ELC primarily for a 10 million dollar annual contract

 

[Polar Bear]

Is there any world where Eichel is attainable while still holding on to the #1OA?

We're not trading Laf for a player on a 10M salary in this new cap era.

 

[Fvital92]

Ask yourself this, if you had Eichel would you trade him to a team that has both Kakko and the 1st overall and not get one of them back in return?

They probably wound't have a choice if Eichel wants out. That's a nice, and cheap, package.

 

[Fitzy]

Ask yourself this, if you had Eichel would you trade him to a team that has both Kakko and the 1st overall and not get one of them back in return?

Depends on what I thought my franchise needed. That proposal he put up is like half our system plus a high level offensive defensemen. There's no superstar there but thats likely an entire young defensive pairing and 2nd line.

 

[Trxjw]

I would be shocked if a trade ever came to fruition but the other part of me is wondering why Bob would go the length to mention this (especially from retirement) if there wasn't some legs to it.

The whole Twitter thread reads as if he got enough additional information from other sources to basically say, "This is what I heard, they're shooting it down, but I don't really believe them." And based on what the generous folks around here have shared, we know the teams have talked already about various concepts. It has legs. Does that mean it has real legs and not Deadpool 2 baby-legs? No, but he got enough confirmation that he felt comfortable going public with it.

 

[NYSPORTS]

It is, I also don't think the Rangers are without options either.

When we start getting to second contracts for guys like Kakko and Lafreniere, Smith is coming off. Lundqvist is coming off. Girardi will be coming off. Shattenkirk will be coming off. Staal is already off. In this scenario, there potentially isn't a new ADA contract. There isn't Strome's current deal or his next one.

That's a lot of money.

And if it somehow wasn't enough, I don't think Kreider's contract is immovable, and Zibanejad's fate could very well be tied to this health.

So long as the Rangers aren't moving too many of those young contracts, they actually have a quite a bit to work with.

IDK

Laf, Kakko, Zibby, Panarin, Kreider, Shes, Ada, Trouba - if each averaged only $6 million that’s $48 million

Fox, Kraskov, Miller and so many on top?

Howden, Lindgren, Chytil, etc

That’s a BIG payroll down the road. I think we’re going to get a few years of all of them followed by the Laf and Kakkow show. The rest will be fewer as i see it.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Yes, in the world where Kakko goes the other way.

Disagree. DeAngelo, Buchnevich, Chytil and #22 is plenty, especially considering how few teams have both the space and assets to acquire Eichel.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

 

[Thirty One]

Did we finally get our answer on the Trouba NTC?!?!

 

[Trxjw]

Ask yourself this, if you had Eichel would you trade him to a team that has both Kakko and the 1st overall and not get one of them back in return?

The question I would ask is how much choice do I have? If I know Eichel wants out, my owner is pressuring me to shed money, and I don't want to head into next season with this hanging over the head of everyone in the locker room, well they my hands are kind of tied. There are probably a limited number of teams in the league right now who have the financial stability to take on $50m+ in guaranteed money and the cap space to do it. That's before you even consider who actually has premium, cost controlled pieces to give up. I would think the Rangers are one of only a handful of teams who fit the bill.

 

[Gardner McKay]

They probably wound't have a choice if Eichel wants out. That's a nice, and cheap, package.

The question I would ask is how much choice do I have? If I know Eichel wants out, my owner is pressuring me to shed money, and I don't want to head into next season with this hanging over the head of everyone in the locker room, well they my hands are kind of tied. There are probably a limited number of teams in the league right now who have the financial stability to take on $50m+ in guaranteed money and the cap space to do it. That's before you even consider who actually has premium, cost controlled pieces to give up. I would think the Rangers are one of only a handful of teams who fit the bill.

If he wants out, which he doesn't according to McKenzie.

 

[Fitzy]

Larry dropping more propaganda for the front office trade negotiations.

 

[aufheben]

Oh god not again with Eichel.

 

[Ghost of jas]

That was before the Rangers dumped $5.7 million on Detroit.

 

[Trxjw]

Larry and cap numbers. A match made behind a dumpster.

 

[NYR Viper]

@GAGLine

You're the cap guy, if the Rangers traded:

ADA + Chytil + Andersson + CAR 1st + NYR 1st '21 for Eichel

And then traded

Strome for picks

Georigev for picks

Buy-out Hank (this is worst case scenario as he may retire)

Where does that leave the team this season and next? When I ran it, it seemed to leave quite a bit of space.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Did you just round 59 down to 50?

I was going off the top of my head

50 60 whatever his value was down either way

 

[NYR Viper]

The question I would ask is how much choice do I have? If I know Eichel wants out, my owner is pressuring me to shed money, and I don't want to head into next season with this hanging over the head of everyone in the locker room, well they my hands are kind of tied. There are probably a limited number of teams in the league right now who have the financial stability to take on $50m+ in guaranteed money and the cap space to do it. That's before you even consider who actually has premium, cost controlled pieces to give up. I would think the Rangers are one of only a handful of teams who fit the bill.

And to be fair, this is EXACTLY what was discussed weeks ago on here. There aren't many teams who could compile as attractive of a package while absorbing that contract as the Rangers.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Disagree. DeAngelo, Buchnevich, Chytil and #22 is plenty, especially considering how few teams have both the space and assets to acquire Eichel.

Hey look, I am not rooting against it. If that was the deal I could absolutely live with it. I just can't see Buffalo doing it unless Eichel publicly asks for a trade and their leverage is shot.

 

[Trxjw]

If he wants out, which he doesn't according to McKenzie.

Not according to McKenzie. According to Eichel's agent. Again, I don't think McKenzie runs with that story unless he felt he was being fed a line of bullshit. What would be the point of going there just to renounce it two tweets later?

 

[Fvital92]

If he wants out, which he doesn't according to McKenzie.

Just a matter of time, probably next offseason.

 

[Irishguy42]

Did we finally get our answer on the Trouba NTC?!?!

Yeah, I posted the answer with links to the MOU about this a few weeks back.

All upcoming NTC/NMC clauses that are set to become active during the 2020-2021 season were negotiated to begin during the FA period, whenever that was determined (which is now known to be October 9th), instead of the normal FA start of July 1st.

 

[Mikachu93]

Ask yourself this, if you had Eichel would you trade him to a team that has both Kakko and the 1st overall and not get one of them back in return?

No, I wouldn't. I also don't think it will happen for that reason.

Buffalo doesn't exactly earn recognition for the shrewd decisions of its front office, though.

 

[Avery16]

Did we finally get our answer on the Trouba NTC?!?!

Brooks is full of it. I heard from a Reliable Source on this thread that the NMC kicked in months ago.

 

[duhmetreE]

Wait for McDavid.