Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIII: Smell a smaller trade incoming?

[LokiDog]

I have been a huge advocate for Lindholm. I would pay a nice price to obtain him, not Eichel level, but I would pay.

And the reason being is he is a premium #2C option. He can excel in that role here. And it doesn’t complete take us out of adding a 1C, whether it be Eichel or someone else, while providing us insurance moving forward in case we have to trade Zib for a young C that still needs time to develop.

I would be calling Calgary every day about Lindholm. And I would settle for Monahan at a “lesser” cost too. Another C with some term and a manageable cap hit. Not as good a 2-way player but can provide you that 2C stability.

He’s also like top 7 in face off percentage and top 7 in face offs taken, so he’s actually a reliable option. I’d love him as our 2C behind an eventual bonafide star center or in an A/B tandem with a bounce back Zibanejad.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I don't, but I am going to guess by mid-month.

Unless the FSB get a hold of a certain girl from Riga and pay/pressure her to say some BS. At that point we’ll know whether it was D’tagglia (Nazarov) or Barzini (Sechin).

 

[East Coast Bias]

Well Calgary fired their coach. There’s step 2 on the shake it up playbook. Step 1 was waiving an overpaid 4th liner than plays 9 mins a game as if that will fix it.

need some more shit results before we get to step 3 - trading meaningful players.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Yeah. Unless the GM is named Chiarelli, teams aren't trading away a top prospect for a center who takes up 12% of the salary cap for 5 more years with a flat cap for at least 2 of those years

And they already have a 10 million dollar center in Kopitar for the next 3 1/2 years.

trading for another 10 million dollar player plus sending a cost controlled young center the other direction? No chance

 

[BBKers]

Why not instead try to trade with LA for one of their many young C prospects (offseason) for a good NYR D prospect/futures? Try to keep our 1st rounder in 2021 (hopefully a good C then also falls into our laps). Hope that Zib picks up his game. Then, if the stars then align - try to get another young C outta Vegas. THey are all in now. Even sign a stopgap VET UFA C this offseason - if deemed necessary. I personally like a guy like Lowry in the Peg. Chytil/Strome/Vegas trade/LA trade/2021 1st round draft pick/Vet C/Barron down the middle = likely an overkill = but then with assets enough to upgrade the roster further. Use pieces like Howden/Gauthier/Henriksson/Hajek/Lindbom now to get a couple other reclamation projects for toughening up the bottom 6 (Bennett, Virtanen...). I dunno...

 

[Edge]

Why not instead try to trade with LA for one of their many young C prospects (offseason) for a good NYR D prospect/futures? Try to keep our 1st rounder in 2021 (hopefully a good C then also falls into our laps). Hope that Zib picks up his game. Then, if the stars then align - try to get another young C outta Vegas. THey are all in now. Even sign a stopgap VET UFA C this offseason- if deemed necessary. Chytil/Strome/Vegas trade/LA trade/Vet C/Barron down the middle = likely an overkill = but then with assets enough to upgrade further. I dunno...

Vegas has to figure out some cap stuff. But I would 100 percent keep an eye on that direction concerning Zibanejad interest/talks/speculation.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Well Calgary fired their coach. There’s step 2 on the shake it up playbook. Step 1 was waiving an overpaid 4th liner than plays 9 mins a game as if that will fix it.

need some more shit results before we get to step 3 - trading meaningful players.

Think Trevliving will be fired before they start trading meaningful players there

which could be the summer, and then we see the new GM moving guys

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Is Vegas desperate enough to win to move someone like Glass for one year of Zibanejad?

I have no idea but I would assume no

 

[rangers1314]

Vegas has to figure out some cap stuff. But I would 100 percent keep an eye on that direction concerning Zibanejad interest/talks/speculation.

In season or offseason?

 

[rangers1314]

Why not instead try to trade with LA for one of their many young C prospects (offseason) for a good NYR D prospect/futures?

What are you thinking? A Nils/Alex Turcotte type swap?

 

[Fitzy]

Is Vegas desperate enough to win to move someone like Glass for one year of Zibanejad?

I have no idea but I would assume no

I realize this doesn't always affect value in a huge way but sometimes teams trade for a player with the assumption that they'll get first bid on a fair contract extension.

It's why trading pieces for negotiation rights, like Buffalo did for Vesey, is still a thing.

I would have to imagine any team trading for Zibby would be doing so in hopes that he regains his form and that they would be first in line for a contract extension.

On discussions of Chytil- I think he looks like a bigger Duchene/Straka. A puck lugger. And that actually could be really helpful on a line between Lafreniere and Kakko moving forward, neither of whom are known primarily for their transition game. Food for thought.

Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko could be a hell of a line for 15 years.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I wonder if Monahan's name will come up again.

 

[Edge]

In season or offseason?

Offseason.

I think there are going to be teams who want to see how revenue streams open up, how contracts come off the books, etc. before making major moves.

My best guess is we aren't going to see huge blockbusters the remainder of this season, but teams could re-visit talks later.

 

[BBKers]

Is Vegas desperate enough to win to move someone like Glass for one year of Zibanejad?

I have no idea but I would assume no

You are likely right there. But a hopefully rejeuvantated Zib (with some $$ retained) - also available for 2 Cup runs is a different story altogether IMO.But that might not be doable. Time will tell

 

[duhmetreE]

Zibs at 50% for Krebs is enticing.

Zibs can get his no state tax contract.

 

[LokiDog]

Anyone ever looked at their posts to likes ratio and thought of it as the HF version of +/- or am the only weirdo?

 

[Kocur Dill]

What are you thinking? A Nils/Alex Turcotte type swap?

IIRC, the fans on hfb seem to be looking for LD, which leaves us at Robertson, Jones, and Miller.

Robertson and Jones won't get it done and I don't think we part with Miller any time soon so...

 

[MarkMessyay11]

Anyone ever looked at their posts to likes ratio and thought of it as the HF version of +/- or am the only weirdo?

I haven't done that, but thanks for opening that door. Have another like...

 

[rangers1314]

 

[MarkMessyay11]

Offseason.

I think there are going to be teams who want to see how revenue streams open up, how contracts come off the books, etc. before making major moves.

My best guess is we aren't going to see huge blockbusters the remainder of this season, but teams could re-visit talks later.

I think that would make Zibanejad even more appealing this summer. His salary next year is (slightly) lower than his cap it, and at 50% retention he could be a real hot commodity for contenders with some cap and cash flow issues.

 

[rangers1314]

KK skating with Strome and Kreider.

 

[Fitzy]

Anyone ever looked at their posts to likes ratio and thought of it as the HF version of +/- or am the only weirdo?

My excuse is that most of my posts came before the like function was added.

 

[JimmyG89]

Is Vegas desperate enough to win to move someone like Glass for one year of Zibanejad?

I have no idea but I would assume no

This would definitely be my target as well. We missed by 1 pick from getting him in the draft and if I remember correctly, they were very high on him. Having Glass and Chytil being the long term 1-2 combo down the middle could be good, or of course, they could just try and flip Glass in a move for Eichel. Would be the center prospect that the Sabres would be looking for in return and is better than any of the other realistic options LA could present for Buffalo (LA is not going to move Byfield).

 

[BBKers]

Will get very interesting (and crowded) when Kravtsov arrives:

Bread - Mika - Buch
Kreider - Strome - Kakko
Laf - Chytil - Gauthier/Blackwell
Lemieux - Rooney/Howden - PDG

Also becoming clearer and clearer that the risk of paying out bonus overages to NYR players on ELC:s, that will defer above the actual cap hits resulting in carry over penalties for next season, is NOT Going to happen = CAPSPACE!

 

[Fitzy]

KK skating with Strome and Kreider.

If that's the case I hope Panarin goes in Rooney's spot on the Chytil line upon his return.

Could give us some well needed balance.