Speculation: Roster Building Thread LII: Countdown to Free Agency

[Off Sides]

What is with the needing of a mentor?

Are these prospects going to really go off the rails should they only have Lundqvist, Staal, Zbad, Kreider, Namestnikov, Fast, Vesey, Strome to mentor them?

 

[darko]

You wouldn’t offer sheet a 21 year old super star center? With all the picks we’ve grabbed already?

No chance. We already had 4 years of no 1st round picks. Those were the days of top prospects Christian Thomas and Danny Kristo.

Keep the picks + draft well = sustained success.

 

[RGY]

You wouldn’t offer sheet a 21 year old super star center? With all the picks we’ve grabbed already?

No. Because thats how you screw yourself out of being a perennial contender for several years. You end up with no high end talent in the farm to fill in the bottom lines on ELC contracts.

TB may not have won a cup, which is for different reasons, but they certainly have the blueprint for how to stay competitive for several years.

Keep the window open as long as possible. I would rather pay a UFA more dollars than fork over multiple 1sts for one player

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Don't do this to me.

 

[darko]

No. Because thats how you screw yourself out of being a perennial contender for several years. You end up with no high end talent in the farm to fill in the bottom lines on ELC contracts.

TB may not have won a cup, which is for different reasons, but they certainly have the blueprint for how to stay competitive for several years.

Keep the window open as long as possible. I would rather pay a UFA more dollars than fork over multiple 1sts for one player

Bingo.

 

[RGY]

It doesn't fit our timeline as in...he won't help us win a cup during that tenure...

The shorter term then applies to it doesn't fit his timeline.

How do you know that? The defense is improving. Our offense would have a pretty good group. Goaltending seems to be in a good position.

Sure there is no guarantee or way of knowing, but its not like either direction is so definite

 

[Edge]

From everything that most people have heard, offer sheeting a player is not a strong possibility from the Rangers. For a variety of reasons.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The fact that you don't understand the difference between players at different ages and the body's ability to heal is alarming. That's like day 1 stuff.

I understand that you label a player who had 1 injury in 5 years as injury prone.

 

[rangers1314]

You just love driving everyone nuts, don’t you?

 

[Inferno]

How do you know that? The defense is improving. Our offense would have a pretty good group. Goaltending seems to be in a good position.

Sure there is no guarantee or way of knowing, but its not like either direction is so definite

Please name a team that's gone from being a league worst in row to contender in under 3 years.

 

[MetalJaws]

The Rangers should stay the hell away from adding any vets to this team. Staal, Hank, Zib, Strome, Skjei, Trouba, Georgiev and Fast is plenty. Hell, you could even add Shatty, Names, Kreider, Smith and Vesey to that list, even though they're all trade bait. They still bring that presence.

No reason to take a roster spot away from young up and coming players for veteran leadership the Rangers already have. No bringing back old Rangers, no signing old guys.

The Rangers have so many players capable of playing right now. Other than signing Kreider or seeing what Panarin wants, the Rangers should do nothing.

 

[RGY]

You just love driving everyone nuts, don’t you?

@Edge knows something we dont lol.

Anyways, i doubt we hear anything about the meeting with Panarin today no matter how bad or good it went.

 

[Edge]

You just love driving everyone nuts, don’t you?

Just a little.

 

[duhmetreE]

It doesn't have to be an offer-sheet per se but the threat of one. I'd package Chytil, Buch++ for Aho

 

[Tawnos]

It doesn't fit our timeline as in...he won't help us win a cup during that tenure...

The shorter term then applies to it doesn't fit his timeline.

The Cup isn't the goal in the short-term. In terms of developing a future Cup winner, he fits our timeline well.

Like I said, we'd have to overpay.

 

[RGY]

Please name a team that's gone from being a league worst in row to contender in under 3 years.

Without even looking, I dont feel the Rangers rebuild as been the same as many others.

I dont believe previous teams have accumulated this many 1st round picks and prospects.

I dont think there has been a team that has sold off their vets, acquired assets, and repurposed them for other assets such as Fox and Trouba.

They landed the 2nd overall pick and took a very polished kid in terms of physical development and experience playing in a men’s league.

I think its possible to be a bubble team this year. And you add a guy like Pavelski, who knows.

 

[Tawnos]

Please name a team that's gone from being a league worst in row to contender in under 3 years.

Chicago went from drafting Kane in 2007 to being in the WCF in 2009.

 

[LannyMcdonald]

Please name a team that's gone from being a league worst in row to contender in under 3 years.

I'm mostly on your side here, but I have to point out: Colorado Avalanche were bottom of the league in 2016-17

 

[darko]

Please name a team that's gone from being a league worst in row to contender in under 3 years.

Would you consider 15-16 Panthers a contender? They were pretty bad in 13-14.

 

[Inferno]

Chicago went from drafting Kane in 2007 to being in the WCF in 2009.

Yes but that wasn't year 1 of bottoming our either...

 

[duhmetreE]

We are not and have never been leagues worst.

 

[Tawnos]

Yes but that wasn't year 1 of bottoming our either...

That isn't what you asked.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Please name a team that's gone from being a league worst in row to contender in under 3 years.

I don't say this because I want the Rangers to go all in this year, b/c I don't. They are still a bit away.

but how are we still saying this? An expansion team in the WC final, followed by the team that was the worst in the league at Christmas. AN EXPANSION team in the finals!

In the last 5 cup finals, the WC has had 5 different teams, the EC 4.

This league is pure parity. Nothing comes close to it

 

[Inferno]

I'm mostly on your side here, but I have to point out: Colorado Avalanche were bottom of the league in 2016-17

But they accumulated tons of top picks before they turned it around...they didn't get just 1 top 5 player. Duchene was a 2oa, landeskog was 2 and MacKinnon... That's 3 top 2 picks. 3


We have 1.

And it's not like Colorado has done a ton in the playoffs..how many rounds have they won? 1?

 

[Kovalev27]

In a heartbeat id give up 4 firsts for a Sebastian Aho. A 21 year old franchise center. If he’s not the biggest part of any rebuild I don’t know what is. Especially with all the picks we’ve already made.