Line Combos: Roster 2019-2020

[xNogaitx]

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Domi - ???
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Armia
Byron - Poehling - Weal
(Cousins, Thompson)

Mete - Weber
Chiarot - Petry
Kulak - Folin
(Reilly)

Price
Kinkaid

I really hope we add a top 6 forward, this lineup needs it badly. If not, then I guess Lehkonen would move to the 2nd line, Byron to the 3rd and Cousins on the 4th.

I wouldn't be surprised if Weal is pushed out for Cousins. Cousins as a more complete NHL game, albeit not as gifted offensively. Moreover, he's got that physical grit Julien likes for a 4th liner.

Also, I think once it's all said and done, Folin is our 7th D, Juulsen plays on the bottom RD pair with Kulak.

Reilly is the 8th/insurance policy.

 

[xNogaitx]

Try posting it in the Jets fans' board and see what they think.

I'd probably consider a

Mtl:
Laine

WPG:
Drouin
Lehkonen
Fleury
Chicago's 2nd rd pick in 2020

Winnipeg will look at moving Laine in a deal that brings similar aged players on deals that are more affordable and yet still have upside.

Drouin replaces Laine in the top 6, albeit not having a ceiling as high as Laine's. Lehkonen provides the middle 6 winger depth at a cheap cost, and Fleury provides a replacement option on the right side since they just lost Tanev, Myers, Trouba, and Chariot. Remember, WPG is in their win-now window.

 

[Teufelsdreck]

The Habs have talented players under contract. Unfortunately for them, their draft picks need seasoning.

 

[Zorba]

I'd probably consider a

Mtl:
Laine

WPG:
Drouin
Lehkonen
Fleury
Chicago's 2nd rd pick in 2020

Winnipeg will look at moving Laine in a deal that brings similar aged players on deals that are more affordable and yet still have upside.

Drouin replaces Laine in the top 6, albeit not having a ceiling as high as Laine's. Lehkonen provides the middle 6 winger depth at a cheap cost, and Fleury provides a replacement option on the right side since they just lost Tanev, Myers, Trouba, and Chariot. Remember, WPG is in their win-now window.

So you’re not even giving up a 1st round pick?
That trade is rejected before it even starts

 

[Teufelsdreck]

Tatar - Denault - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Domi - Shaw
Drouin - Kotkaneimi - Armia
Byron - Poehling - Weal

Mete - Weber
Kulak - Petry
Depth UFA - Juulsen

Price
Neuvrith

Not the roster id pick but that's my prediction

 

[Teufelsdreck]

Nice roster that is capable of winning games against some Atlantic Division rivals but not of championship caliber.

 

[xNogaitx]

So you’re not even giving up a 1st round pick?
That trade is rejected before it even starts

I'd consider including a 1st without a doubt. I mostly tried to model my offer around the 1st + 1st + 2nd + 3rd offersheet compensation in a context where Winnipeg requires all of those players to be NHL players or near NHL ready as they are in their compete zone.

Drouin = 1st
Lehkonen = 2nd
Fleury = 3rd
2nd = 2nd

With the logic here that Drouin's value is higher than that of a late first, Lehkonen's value is higher than that of a high 2nd, and Fleury far exceeds the value of a 3rd rd pick. On top of them getting cap savings as well and allowing them to continue to compete.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I'd probably consider a

Mtl:
Laine

WPG:
Drouin
Lehkonen
Fleury
Chicago's 2nd rd pick in 2020

Winnipeg will look at moving Laine in a deal that brings similar aged players on deals that are more affordable and yet still have upside.

Drouin replaces Laine in the top 6, albeit not having a ceiling as high as Laine's. Lehkonen provides the middle 6 winger depth at a cheap cost, and Fleury provides a replacement option on the right side since they just lost Tanev, Myers, Trouba, and Chariot. Remember, WPG is in their win-now window.

Typical HF trade proposal where you offer a bunch of disposable assets in exchange for a valuable asset.

A team in win now mode doesn't trade a proven 40 goal scorer who has averaged 38 goals per 82 games over his first three seasons for a B prospect, two struggling forwards and a 2nd round pick. You can try and create a rationale to support this all you want but Cheveldayoff would hang up immediately.

 

[Habs Halifax]

So you’re not even giving up a 1st round pick?
That trade is rejected before it even starts

Laine > Drouin but I don't think you realize that Laine is not the greatest 5/5 and the Jets are very concerned with paying him top dollar to be a PP specialist. Maybe the adds on Drouin need to be increased but Drouin and 1st is over payment IMO.

But I am guessing you ignore Laine's flaws and pump up Drouin's so I understand why you think the way you do.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Typical HF trade proposal where you offer a bunch of disposable assets in exchange for a valuable asset.

A team in win now mode doesn't trade a proven 40 goal scorer who has averaged 38 goals per 82 games over his first three seasons for a B prospect, two struggling forwards and a 2nd round pick. You can try and create a rationale to support this all you want but Cheveldayoff would hang up immediately.

Drouin is not a disposable asset. Laine is a very good goal scorer on a very good team but produces almost 50% of his goals and points on the PP. He is average at best 5/5.

Lets not ignore the flaws to Laine's game but pump up Drouin's. Jets likely say no to Drouin+ for Laine but I don't think this is a terrible trade idea and they would be interested in saving $5M of cap space to use that on D.

Jets are very concerned with overpaying Laine as a PP specialist. After they sign both Laine and Connor, they have very little cap space to improve the D with Trouba, Myers, and Charot gone. If you offer them a solution to their current challenges (Cap space moving forward and flexibility to make improvements on D), they might listen and engage. Might still say no but this is a good attempt to see if you get a bite

 

[26Mats]

I'd probably consider a

Mtl:
Laine

WPG:
Drouin
Lehkonen
Fleury
Chicago's 2nd rd pick in 2020

Winnipeg will look at moving Laine in a deal that brings similar aged players on deals that are more affordable and yet still have upside.

Drouin replaces Laine in the top 6, albeit not having a ceiling as high as Laine's. Lehkonen provides the middle 6 winger depth at a cheap cost, and Fleury provides a replacement option on the right side since they just lost Tanev, Myers, Trouba, and Chariot. Remember, WPG is in their win-now window.

Could you post this in the Jets hfboard and send me the link?

 

[xNogaitx]

Typical HF trade proposal where you offer a bunch of disposable assets in exchange for a valuable asset.

A team in win now mode doesn't trade a proven 40 goal scorer who has averaged 38 goals per 82 games over his first three seasons for a B prospect, two struggling forwards and a 2nd round pick. You can try and create a rationale to support this all you want but Cheveldayoff would hang up immediately.

And typical HF trade attempted rebutal by discarding the fact that the acquired player is an utter complete defensive liability whose play time was often cut short well below the 15 minutes mark in the prior year due to inconsistencies, with a very well documented video games addiction that's going to command significant salary solely based on goals projection and not actual on-ice capacities.

Is he a great gamble to take? Of course, but don't make it sound like Laine is worth more than Aho, because he ain't.

 

[Zorba]

Laine > Drouin but I don't think you realize that Laine is not the greatest 5/5 and the Jets are very concerned with paying him top dollar to be a PP specialist. Maybe the adds on Drouin need to be increased but Drouin and 1st is over payment IMO.

But I am guessing you ignore Laine's flaws and pump up Drouin's so I understand why you think the way you do.

Drouin is 10x the player Drouin is. I’m not even bothering with this conversation

 

[Zorba]

If you really want Laine , danualt, drouin , Juulsen and 1st for Laine amd some prospect
Then the jets may talk
They’re always in need of centre in WPG and danualt is better than Little and Roslovic

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Drouin is not a disposable asset. Laine is a very good goal scorer on a very good team but produces almost 50% of his goals and points on the PP. He is average at best 5/5.

Lets not ignore the flaws to Laine's game but pump up Drouin's. Jets likely say no to Drouin+ for Laine but I don't think this is a terrible trade idea and they would be interested in saving $5M of cap space to use that on D.

Jets are very concerned with overpaying Laine as a PP specialist. After they sign both Laine and Connor, they have very little cap space to improve the D with Trouba, Myers, and Charot gone. If you offer them a solution to their current challenges (Cap space moving forward and flexibility to make improvements on D), they might listen and engage. Might still say no but this is a good attempt to see if you get a bite

Drouin has been a huge disappointment and there are no signs of improvement. He is absolutely someone who we should be actively trying to dispose of.

Lehkonen has been bumped all the way down to our 4th line so he is very disposable.

Fleury is in no way a solution for replacing Trouba, Chiarot ot Myers for this season.

The poster went through a list of players that he does not value and threw in the obligatory 2nd for a 21 year old, 2nd overall pick averaging 38 goals per season. Let's not compare Laine's "warts" with Drouin's "warts" as it is like putting Chicken Pox and Small Pox on the same level.

My issue was with the thought process as it is just the latest version of Ryder, Halak and a 2nd that embarrassed our board for a period of time.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

And typical HF trade attempted rebutal by discarding the fact that the acquired player is an utter complete defensive liability whose play time was often cut short well below the 15 minutes mark in the prior year due to inconsistencies, with a very well documented video games addiction that's going to command significant salary solely based on goals projection and not actual on-ice capacities.

Is he a great gamble to take? Of course, but don't make it sound like Laine is worth more than Aho, because he ain't.

The intellectual dishonesty in the opening paragraph followed by the strawman at the end is just proof that you know you're wrong and my cue to cut off communication.

 

[Baruch]

What do you guys think of:

Drouin-Danault-Domi
Tatar-Kotkaniemi-Gallagher
Byron-Poehling-Armia
Weal-Thompson/Cousins-Lehkonen
Spares: Thompson/Cousins-Peca

Mete-Weber
Kulak/Chiarot-Petry
Kulak/Chiarot-Juulsen
Spares: Reilly-Folin

Price
Kinkaid

Danault with Drouin to offset his defensive shortcomings, and completes Domi nicely, giving him more liberty as well.
Tatar and Gallagher had nice chemistry, Kotkaniemi can drive the play on that line.
Poehling with 2 different sort of grinders/checking forwards that can also chip in offensively should help him.

 

[Steve Shutt]

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Domi - Suzuki
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Armia
Byron - Cousins - Weal

(Cousins, Thompson, Hudon)
Laval = Poehling, Weise, Peca, Barber, Varone)

Mete - Weber
Chiarot - Petry
Kulak - Folin
(Juulsen, Alzner, Reilly)

Price
Kinkaid
(Lindgren)

Hoping Alzner can bounce back and steal the #6/7 D

 

[Nephasted]

Im pretty sure:

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Domi-Byron
Drouin-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Cousins-Thompson-Weal

Mete-Weber
Chariot-Petry
Kulak-Folin

Price
Kinkaid

Bench:
Reilly
Alzner
Hudon

Everyones Else with Laval

 

[TT1]

Im pretty sure:

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Domi-Byron
Drouin-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Cousins-Thompson-Weal

Mete-Weber
Chariot-Petry
Kulak-Folin

Price
Kinkaid

Bench:
Reilly
Alzner
Hudon

Everyones Else with Laval

Yea this looks like a CJ lineup, pretty accurate. Let's hope Poehling can mix up the cards a bit. Very likely that Suzuki spends the year in the AHL, barring a ton of injuries.

 

[Zorba]

Im pretty sure:

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Domi-Byron
Drouin-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Cousins-Thompson-Weal

Mete-Weber
Chariot-Petry
Kulak-Folin

Price
Kinkaid

Bench:
Reilly
Alzner
Hudon

Everyones Else with Laval

Lol lek and Byron playing with the centre who put up the most points in ages
What did Domi do deserve this? Let’s not reward him , let’s punish him with those 2

 

[Naslund]

No way Poehling is not on the roster this season, and I don't think he sees any time in Laval. Pencil him as a center as well. Suzuki also has a strong chance to start in Montreal. Shaw was traded to make space for both of them. Caufield next year.

 

[zx81]

Line 1: 3 players
Line 2: 3 players
Line 3: 3 players
Line 4: 6 players

 

[Omar]

What do you guys think of:

Drouin-Danault-Domi
Tatar-Kotkaniemi-Gallagher
Byron-Poehling-Armia
Weal-Thompson/Cousins-Lehkonen
Spares: Thompson/Cousins-Peca

Mete-Weber
Kulak/Chiarot-Petry
Kulak/Chiarot-Juulsen
Spares: Reilly-Folin

Price
Kinkaid

Danault with Drouin to offset his defensive shortcomings, and completes Domi nicely, giving him more liberty as well.
Tatar and Gallagher had nice chemistry, Kotkaniemi can drive the play on that line.
Poehling with 2 different sort of grinders/checking forwards that can also chip in offensively should help him.

Doesn’t make the playoffs, but I’m okay with that.

 

[Zorba]

No way Poehling is not on the roster this season, and I don't think he sees any time in Laval. Pencil him as a center as well. Suzuki also has a strong chance to start in Montreal. Shaw was traded to make space for both of them. Caufield next year.

Shaw was not traded for that reason whatsoever